Bill, you seem to have a deeper concern for this than others posting to the list, and since Glenn seems to be on holiday, he will no doubt have a lot to answer for when he returns, why don't we wait to hear from GeoComm on this topic, officially at least.
However, your comments cause me to ask, isn't the USGS policy more fiscally responsible and more user-centric than it first appears to be? It seems to boil down to a "use-tax", wherein those that consume the data in question are the only ones to "pay" for it, whether "paying" is in slow download speeds, or in cash for higher download speeds, those that do not "consume" don't have to "pay". Now, if the USGS were to continue to host and serve the data, albeit not at lightning fast speeds all the time either, the tax burden, however seemingly insignificant per capita, to do so still exists for EVERYONE, not just consumers of the data. This is not to say that everything should be outsourced, but when something as long-standing and "consumable" as the DEMs/DLGs datasets become such a commodity, it seems pointless to have Government in the role of maintaining servers and communications infrastructure solely for the purpose of allowing public access to data, when a comparable solution exists in outsourcing that service. There is no value-add in simply having the USGS serving bits to the data to the public, and the budget (tax $) is better used in other areas. I think? Anyway, climbing down off the soapbox now..
Anthony Q
-----Original Message----- From: Bill Thoen [mailto:bthoen@ctmap.com\ Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:08 PM To: GIS List Subject: Re: GISList: USA Surface Geology
Diane True wrote: > >...Does anyone know of a free or reasonably priced source for geology that is available for all the coterminous US? We need 1:100,000 or better.
You might try ftp://greenwood.cr.usgs.gov/pub/open-file-reports/. Buried in here are the Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada --and maybe others-- surface geology maps in E00 format. THese wouldn't be very large scale (they cover a whole state), but it may be useful as a first approx.
Since the USGS is giving away its option to serve public data online to private companies, you'd better get these quick before you have to pay a fee to download them with any speed.
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