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Subject: RE: GISList: USA Surface Geology
Date:  08/02/2001 03:43:57 PM
From:  Anthony Quartararo



Bill, you seem to have a deeper concern for this than others posting to the
list, and since Glenn seems to be on holiday, he will no doubt have a lot to
answer for when he returns, why don't we wait to hear from GeoComm on this
topic, officially at least.

However, your comments cause me to ask, isn't the USGS policy more fiscally
responsible and more user-centric than it first appears to be? It seems to
boil down to a "use-tax", wherein those that consume the data in question
are the only ones to "pay" for it, whether "paying" is in slow download
speeds, or in cash for higher download speeds, those that do not "consume"
don't have to "pay". Now, if the USGS were to continue to host and serve
the data, albeit not at lightning fast speeds all the time either, the tax
burden, however seemingly insignificant per capita, to do so still exists
for EVERYONE, not just consumers of the data. This is not to say that
everything should be outsourced, but when something as long-standing and
"consumable" as the DEMs/DLGs datasets become such a commodity, it seems
pointless to have Government in the role of maintaining servers and
communications infrastructure solely for the purpose of allowing public
access to data, when a comparable solution exists in outsourcing that
service. There is no value-add in simply having the USGS serving bits to
the data to the public, and the budget (tax $) is better used in other
areas. I think? Anyway, climbing down off the soapbox now..

Anthony Q

-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Thoen [mailto:bthoen@ctmap.com\
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 5:08 PM
To: GIS List
Subject: Re: GISList: USA Surface Geology


Diane True wrote:
>
>...Does anyone know of a free or reasonably priced source for geology that
is available for all the coterminous US? We need 1:100,000 or better.

You might try ftp://greenwood.cr.usgs.gov/pub/open-file-reports/.
Buried in here are the Wyoming, Colorado, New Mexico, Nevada
--and maybe others-- surface geology maps in E00 format. THese
wouldn't be very large scale (they cover a whole state), but it
may be useful as a first approx.

Since the USGS is giving away its option to serve public data
online to private companies, you'd better get these quick before
you have to pay a fee to download them with any speed.

--
- Bill Thoen
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