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Subject: RE: GISList: What to do? Internet or database.
Date:  08/17/2001 10:07:40 AM
From:  Laurie McLaughlin .. Orange



Dear Pat,
Here is the advice part. I am writing from Orange County, CA, where we are
having layoffs. My background is teaching and consulting for 20 years. I
have a BA in Geography, an MS in Accountancy, and soon an MS in Management
Info Systems. My main theory is that when layoffs occur, people go back to
college where I can get work teaching in colleges and trade schools.

As a contultant, I can offer services to small business which is the
expansion factor in the economy.

My # 1 strategy since the 11 June 2001 layoff, is to contact "colleges and
universitites", "trade and technical schools" listed in any yellow pages
search engine under these keywords. Junior Colleges usually want a Master's
degree plus
six graduate level courses in a subject in order to teach it. Junior
Colleges in California are also allowed to hire "experts" based on career
experience to teach. The payrate is $40 per hour for classroom time.

Trade and vocational schools may hire just on expertise if they do not seek
accredidation. They may have teaching or lab tech work for you.

My # 2 strategy is to get a mailing list and offer services to local
business. Your local chamber of commerce membership list is one good choice
if they will sell it to you. Walking door to door in an office complex
works.

In Orange County, there is the Orange County Business Journal which profiles
an industry per week all year and lists the best firms. With this digital
list I can input into Oracle or use the file on Excel to make a *.dbf file
for a map. This is a "qualified" list of the best firms.

Then I can make a marketing letter and start phoning up to sell services in
Accounting, Taxes, and Computers including Databases, GIS, truck routing,
maps for marketing decisions, etc.

My # 3 suggestion is to dial up Amazon.com and start selling books, art,
stuff, etc. My site is Laurie's Mystery Cafe.
http://s1.amazon.com/exec/varzea/ts/my-zshop/S301K4HIOK93BY/107-4444590-4450
145

So, in answer to your question, should you select a re-training course, no,
just go to work teaching and consulting and selling retail.

You appear to have technical skills, what you need are business skills.
Learn business by doing. Small business is where growth occurs. Contact
small firms and see how your skills can help their business grow.

Like the other guy said, this was $0.02 plain, American.
Like Tiny Tim said, God bless us every one.

Good Luck!
Cheers, Laurie McLaughlin, M.S.



-----Original Message-----
From: Pat Waggaman [mailto:waggaman@marimsys.com\
Sent: Thursday, August 16, 2001 5:05 AM
To: gislist@geocomm.com
Cc: allison_ross@sympatico.ca
Subject: Re: GISList: What to do? Internet or database.


VB6 is unquestionably the serious programming interface. Largest base of
installed users, largest volume of apps created and big bad Bill Gates
leading the charge. In general our philosophy has been, "in the lack of a
clearly superior alternative - including the prospective evaluation of the
next few releases - follow Bill".

VB is tremendously capable as an interface between the processes of data
coming into the system and writing to the db - and that will cover you
through lots of as yet unthought of new technologies and protocols for
incoming data - and the other side where you're querying the db and
presenting the data to the new technologies and protocols yet to come for
its presentation to the user. Our GIS apps are written almost exclusively
in VB, and that includes the web part.

VB should be adapted in 10 years time to get the hyper-light speed,
infinite bandwidth, quantum coded data from the point of origin to the db
and back out to the muon sized computer sited on the pimple on your left
cheek.

The cute display technologies will have to relate to VB, the common
denominator, you can always learn a detail interface or two: it's very
difficult to only understand the 'detail protocols' and not understand the
common denominator.

Yes, (bowing toward Finland) UNIX is wonderful, (salaaam): but VB has the
installed base and can be twisted about to create the flexibility.

The warehouse experience is interesting when combined with the
GIS. There's a great future for geographically and "accountingly" tracking
pieces and parts of the supply chain.

$0.02 (US thank you) - Best of Luck,

Pat

Thos. E. Waggaman, III (Pat)
Director
Marine Imaging Systems S.A.
Ave Borgoņo 22.090
Caleta Higuerillas
Vina del Mar
Chile

waggaman@marimsys.com
Tel: 56 32 815005
FAX: 56 32 815243

http://www.marimsys.com


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>Dear Listers:
> I need your support to further my education. Please send $100 in
>small bills to the address below. IF this is not possible, please
>e-mail your "two-cents" to the address above concerning the following.
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