Interesting site and certainly an effort I would applaud. However, on the surface, there seems to be little unique and groundbreaking information here, just proven processes and methodologies applied to a new discipline and industry segment. That is valuable work in and of itself, however it still has the same fatal flaws and traps as every other acronym-laced "quality" initiative.
Having ISO 9000 registration actually means very little in the big industries, and it means even less in the GIS-related industries. All that the ISO certification conveys is that a) an organization has spent alot of time documenting their business processes, b) they communicate those processes to employees, clients and consultants, c) they maintain records to prove it. Oh yeah, and it also means that some ISO quality consultant makes alot of money, and the newly registered company gets to stick an "ISO" label on their marketing materials.
I have yet to meet a qualified ISO registrar who knows beans about GIS, digital product quality or anything related to geospatial services. Sure, there's alot that know how to audit a QMS for software product, that's not unique. Microsoft could be ISO registered and it would not require them to decrease ANY of there thousands of known software bugs.
The SEI CMM, ISO 14000, Baldridge Awards, etc.etc.etc. are all in the same boat, some work better than others, but none works 100% of the time for 100% of the users. There can and will not be a truly valuable standard of quality in GIS or related industries until we have standards of what it is that we are trying to make "better" by all these quality initiatives. What I mean is, that we do not even have compliance to a standard of interoperability for a "pole" from all the major GIS software vendors, let alone how a telecommunications model works, or and electric model works, etc. etc. etc. So how can a quality standard validate a service or product against an unknown? It can't, and that's fatal flaw #1.
The second fatal flaw is that the "independent" registrar auditors are paid by the companies seeking certification, whether ISO, CMM, etc. I doubt I need to elaborate on the details of this flaw.
How long has ISO TC 176 been working on a technical standard that could apply, among other things, to GIS? The OGC and countless other academics have spent PhD's man-years tackling this problem in the nth degree of detail with still no comprehensive and collective standard model that fits just right.
A third flaw is, well unavoidable and is not going to be diminished. Interpretation of the standard. Since all of these models and standards are written in such a way as to be less "prescriptive" and more "descriptive", there is ample wiggle room for what they actually mean in a given industry setting. This is both good and bad and has certainly led to a lot of companies becoming registered to ISO and others that haven't the slightest clue what its all about. But you can't have a standard so focused that it really only applies to a single industry and/or segment, right? That's what happened to the US automotive industry. Oops.
Lastly, (I know I have vented long enough), even companies, CEO's included, that are ISO certified don't get it. How many times have we all heard this, "Better quality means higher costs" If you have heard that then you can rest assured that the people selling that are selling "junk bonds". What I mean is, they have missed the entire purpose and effort of the quality management industry. As Motorola and others have demonstrated with Six Sigma, higher quality actually means more production efficiencies, less waste and rework, and that should all translate into more competitive pricing for consumers (ie. utility or telecom GIS users, etc.) rather than cost increases. Just because offshore labor may be cheap, and it costs nothing to throw another dozen set of eyes on something to make sure "quality is improved", it does not follow that the end product is going to be even .5% better because of all that checking, rechecking, rework, etc. because, product still gets delivered that is not acceptable and I am sure many of us have experienced this over and over again.
Another quality model is not what we need, we need to make the ones we already have work. Until then, I'll wait for the movie version.
Anthony
here are the URLs. model :http://itsqc.srv.cs.cmu.edu/escm/index.html documents: http://itsqc.srv.cs.cmu.edu/escm/escm_model.html News release : http://news.cs.cmu.edu/Releases/demo/85.html
>Hello listers, > >I just saw a news release on a quality model released by Carnegie mellon >university recently from Pittsburgh, which they call is for IT enabled >services. The published documents in their website says that
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