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Subject: RE: GISList: Re: import of e00 using ArcView3.2
Date:  01/11/2002 11:11:36 PM
From:  Peter Schlesinger



Robert,

I have been an avid user of many GIS products, including ESRI products for
13 years. ESRI has done an immense amount of good for a lot of people, and
their organizations, and aided in conservation goals around the world. It
has a history of putting its older software versions in the public domain.
It has given its software and training away to 1000s of individuals and
groups here and abroad. Yes, it's a big company. Yes it costs alot to pay
for its software and maintenance: however, the products, the personal
services, responses, access to technical support and sharing of
methodoligies they give the users for that money is phenomenal!

Don't get too bent out of shape about E00, become a programmer. EOO format
may be proprietary, but it is still very available online. I found this
Arc/Info Export (E00) Format Analysis in two minutes, see:
http://pages.infinit.net/danmo/e00/docs/v7_e00_cover.html and

Library to Read/Write Compressed E00 Files
http://pages.infinit.net/danmo/e00/index-e00compr.html

As well, some public domain softwares that read E00 format:
GRASS
SPRING

Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Heitzman [mailto:rheitzman@hotmail.com\
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 11:04 PM
To: rick_gray@canoemail.com: gislist@geocomm.com
Subject: Re: GISList: Re: import of e00 using ArcView3.2



>I'm not the world's biggest ESRI fan - if only because I dislike
>monopolies and sometimes it seems as if ESRI is perceived as one -
>but it seems to me that your gripe is not well founded nor very
>professional.
>

Obviously, I'm not thier biggest fan either. They are obviously the 800#
gorilla here and they can do whatever they wish.

IMPORT71 maybe a great tool, makes no difference. My un-professional
"gripe" is that public agencies are publishing public domain data in a
propritary format. .E00 is only useful to folks who own ESRI licensed
software - it is not a public format.

You, and other professionals, like the GIS Depot for example and the folks
at public agencies that trash my flame mail, are so steeped in ESRI software
that you can't even acknowledge the point that .E00 is a closed ESRI format.
The common answer is - tough, buy ArcWhatever and shut up.

The subject of the orginal posts, IMPORT71, is a good example. What good is
IMPORT71 to a non-ESRI GIS user? It converts one propritary ESRI format to
another ESRI format. Sure, it allows those with $1,000+ ESRI products to
utilize files from a $5,000+ ESRI product - great!

So my gripes are with those that are exepcting everyone to own ESRI
licesnsed software if they want to utilized taxpayer developed data. And
with the GIS professional that support posting of .E00 formatted of public
domain data.

ESRI knows it has us by the throat. Unless the folks I flame, the one's
spending million$ with ESRI, get it into there heads that they are doing a
disservice to the public they aren't even going to ask ESRI to build them
the tools to easily publish public domain data.

I'm sure .E00 is a great ESRI interchange format, and I wish you thousands
more succesful excahnges of ESRI data from ESRI system to ESRI system. I
just ask when you apply your professional GIS skills to systems designs for
distributing public domain data you don't suggest .E00 is the format to use.
That, IMHO, would not be professional.





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