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| Subject: | Re: GISList: GeoComm.com Nauseating II |
| Date: |
02/13/2002 07:37:19 AM |
| From: |
T.C. Herman |
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Robert,
Put simply, the GeoCommunity web site is made possible because of GIS-related advertising. If you do not
understand or appreciate our advertising related business model, then please do not visit our website. As for
the rest of the folks in the GeoCommunity such as Chris Weaver - thank you for your support, understanding, and
positive contributions.
T.C. Herman
Executive Vice President
Robert Heitzman wrote:
> Thanks Chris for including Glenn's comments addressed to me and ending with
> a PS to the list. Notice he didn't bother to send me a copy directly. I
> haven't even received one via the list yet. Strange.
>
> =====================
>
> Mr. Letham,
>
> I have the day off and I thought I would spend some time exploring the
> GeoComm site. I could not escape the incessant flashing on the screen. I
> just left the site and posted my message hoping others would agree and get
> the site to back off a bit on the animation.
>
> Obviously you have some very loyal supporters. I can't believe they
> actually enjoy those ads, but are just defending you. I guess I can agree
> with them in that I am thankful your site is not as bad as the worst out
> there.
>
> Sorry that you took the post personally. I'll write off your poor manners to
> the ability email allows us to make fools of ourseleves on occasion by not
> givng us time to think before we flame away.
>
> I'm sure if you sat back and thought a bit you would have replied to me in
> private to discuss what would prompt me to flame your site. Wouldn't that
> be valuable information? This isn't the kind of list that people just flame
> each other just to be nasty. That certainly wasn't my motivation - I do
> find the rapid animation truly annoying and said so. That's childish?
>
> I noticed the site's unprofessional advertising behaviour for quite a while.
> The latest ad - something about FTP - was over the top. There is no
> excuse IMO for ads like that one. I know it caused me to leave the site
> before I was ready to.
>
> No, Mr. Letham, it is you, not I, that needs an Econ 101 class. Or maybe
> one in Marketing or Advertising. You do not have the luxury of annoying
> many of your visitors and animation/flash does annoy a large segment of the
> Internet users.
>
> I can believe that in small doses changing ad images can be succesful, even
> neccessary if you have a lot of material to display in a small space. Just
> slow down the animation! Yours isn't the kind of site that cannot hold
> visitors for long periods. You have a lot of useful information worth
> reading that I have discovered in the past. It is just that now the site is
> so offensive that I will only visit the site to grab some free data,
> minimzing the time I am exposed to the ads.
>
> Certainly ads obviously designed to annoy actually work in some cases, but
> are you proud of them?
>
> >From: "Weaver, Chris" <CWeaver@icfconsulting.com>
> >To: "Glenn Letham" <editor@geocomm.com>, "Robert Heitzman"
> ><rheitzman@hotmail.com>, <gislist@geocomm.com>
> >Subject: RE: GISList: http://www.GeoComm.com Nauseating
> >Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2002 16:21:47 -0500
> >
> >i'm not fond of ads either, and yes glenn uses animated ads as anyone else
> >displaying ads on the net is.
> >
> >...at least he is not using
> >http://www.unitedvirtualities.com/shoshkeles.htm
> >
> >or any of the other "take over your screen" ads as seen on
> >www.sportingnews.com or even at the olympics (www.olympics.com) site. The
> >one on the olympics site that I saw the other day, faded the entire screen
> >to the ad, then returned the to the main page. Highly bothersome. In
> >comparison Geocomm's are relatively limited in size and scope.
> >
> >At least glenn is providing us all with a highly valuable service without
> >being a royal pain.... besides he puts his name on the line every day.
> >He's on this listserv and everyone can yell and scream and he answers them
> >in turn. How often have you seen Gates, Dangermond, or "fill in big shot,"
> >recently trolling the listservs and usenets of the world.
> >
> >
> >I'm no friend to ads though, in fact I like glenn's comment "Perhaps we
> >should get rid of all the ads, open up unlimited FTP access to all data
> >holdings, provide free career postings, give away all of the books rather
> >than selling them etc..."
> >... *sigh* ... if only....
> >
> >
> >btw, anyone read "Toxic Sludge Is Good for You! : Lies, Damn Lies and the
> >Public Relation
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