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| Subject: | RE: GISList: GeoComm.com Nauseating II |
| Date: |
02/13/2002 10:10:21 AM |
| From: |
Robert Heitzman |
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Thanks for that hint. If anyone knows of a tool that will replace Flash
with a stub that doesn't do anthing let me know. You can't just uninstall
the beast, it just keeps nagging you to install it again and again. IMO
Flash is worse than spam.
There is also an entry under Internet Options, Advanced, Play Animations
that will kill some of the other animation.
Problem is there is quite often good information that one would like access
to that is made available by prudent use of animation and Flash. Screen
real estate is finite and having the ability to replace portions of the
screen on a periodic basis is a good alternative to shrinking down content.
It is too bad some sites abuse the tools and cause some of us to disable
this useful aspect of web browsers.
>From: "Anthony Herman" <aherman@wei.org>
>To: "'therman@geocomm.com'" <therman@geocomm.com>, "Robert Heitzman"
><rheitzman@hotmail.com>
>CC: gislist@geocomm.com, CWeaver@icfconsulting.com
>Subject: RE: GISList: GeoComm.com Nauseating II
>Date: Wed, 13 Feb 2002 07:20:00 -0800
>
>Well... If you right-click on the animation and unselect the PLAY menu
>option it will stop flashing and you can continue on your read! You can
>also disable flash animation on your browser. That should make for a
>easier
>viewing experience and get back to what this list is for... GIS!
>
>Adios,
>Anthony Herman
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: T.C. Herman [mailto:therman@geocomm.com\
>Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:04 PM
>To: Robert Heitzman
>Cc: gislist@geocomm.com: CWeaver@icfconsulting.com
>Subject: Re: GISList: GeoComm.com Nauseating II
>
>
>Robert,
>
>Put simply, the GeoCommunity web site is made possible because of
>GIS-related advertising. If you do not understand or appreciate our
>advertising related business model, then please do not visit our website.
>As for the rest of the folks in the GeoCommunity such as Chris Weaver -
>thank you for your support, understanding, and positive contributions.
>
>T.C. Herman
>Executive Vice President
>
>Robert Heitzman wrote:
>
> > Thanks Chris for including Glenn's comments addressed to me and ending
> > with a PS to the list. Notice he didn't bother to send me a copy
> > directly. I haven't even received one via the list yet. Strange.
> >
> > =====================
> >
> > Mr. Letham,
> >
> > I have the day off and I thought I would spend some time exploring the
> > GeoComm site. I could not escape the incessant flashing on the
> > screen. I just left the site and posted my message hoping others
> > would agree and get the site to back off a bit on the animation.
> >
> > Obviously you have some very loyal supporters. I can't believe they
> > actually enjoy those ads, but are just defending you. I guess I can
> > agree with them in that I am thankful your site is not as bad as the
> > worst out there.
> >
> > Sorry that you took the post personally. I'll write off your poor
> > manners to the ability email allows us to make fools of ourseleves on
> > occasion by not givng us time to think before we flame away.
> >
> > I'm sure if you sat back and thought a bit you would have replied to
> > me in private to discuss what would prompt me to flame your site.
> > Wouldn't that be valuable information? This isn't the kind of list
> > that people just flame each other just to be nasty. That certainly
> > wasn't my motivation - I do find the rapid animation truly annoying
> > and said so. That's childish?
> >
> > I noticed the site's unprofessional advertising behaviour for quite a
>while.
> > The latest ad - something about FTP - was over the top. There is no
> > excuse IMO for ads like that one. I know it caused me to leave the
> > site before I was ready to.
> >
> > No, Mr. Letham, it is you, not I, that needs an Econ 101 class. Or
> > maybe one in Marketing or Advertising. You do not have the luxury of
> > annoying many of your visitors and animation/flash does annoy a large
> > segment of the Internet users.
> >
> > I can believe that in small doses changing ad images can be succesful,
> > even neccessary if you have a lot of material to display in a small
> > space. Just slow down the animation! Yours isn't the kind of site
> > that cannot hold visitors for long periods. You have a lot of useful
> > information worth reading that I have discovered in the past. It is
> > just that now the site is so offensive that I will only visit the site
> > to grab some free data, minimzing the time I a
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