Here here.
Robert, Where have you been for the last 5 years? Despite the fact that market research reports debunk online ads all the time, websites continue to sell "visual real estate" at a healthy clip, and advertisers continue to compete for your eyeballs. If you don't like it, move on to one that is not so ad intensive, create your own portal, or just sit in silence and spare the rest of us.
I don't personally like the GeoComm site for similar reasons, and so I do not spend much time visiting it in any given month, but I do know that is their business model, and in case you haven't been paying attention over the last few months, times are tough. If you have a suggestion for a different business model that eliminates the need to post ads (they are a hassle to manage) then I am sure GeoComm and many others will be glad to hear it. Until then, spare us.
Anthony
-----Original Message----- From: Weaver, Chris [mailto:CWeaver@icfconsulting.com\ Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:22 PM To: Glenn Letham: Robert Heitzman: gislist@geocomm.com Subject: RE: GISList: http://www.GeoComm.com Nauseating
i'm not fond of ads either, and yes glenn uses animated ads as anyone else displaying ads on the net is.
...at least he is not using http://www.unitedvirtualities.com/shoshkeles.htm
or any of the other "take over your screen" ads as seen on www.sportingnews.com or even at the olympics (www.olympics.com) site. The one on the olympics site that I saw the other day, faded the entire screen to the ad, then returned the to the main page. Highly bothersome. In comparison Geocomm's are relatively limited in size and scope.
At least glenn is providing us all with a highly valuable service without being a royal pain.... besides he puts his name on the line every day. He's on this listserv and everyone can yell and scream and he answers them in turn. How often have you seen Gates, Dangermond, or "fill in big shot," recently trolling the listservs and usenets of the world.
I'm no friend to ads though, in fact I like glenn's comment "Perhaps we should get rid of all the ads, open up unlimited FTP access to all data holdings, provide free career postings, give away all of the books rather than selling them etc..." ... *sigh* ... if only....
btw, anyone read "Toxic Sludge Is Good for You! : Lies, Damn Lies and the Public Relations Industry" ?? (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1567510604/qid=1013548694/sr=8-1/ref =sr_8_67_1/103-0312219-7546232) let me know how it is :-)
Anyhow....
-----Original Message----- From: Glenn Letham [mailto:editor@geocomm.com\ Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:36 PM To: Robert Heitzman: gislist@geocomm.com Subject: Re: GISList: http://www.GeoComm.com Nauseating
Robert, if you have problems with the GeoComm site please feel free to contact us at 850-897-6778 or email directly to info@geocomm.com
Venting your childish frustrations on this list is not appropriate nor do your remarks make any sense in today's business economy - i suggest you consider enrolling in ECON 101 at a local instutution or maybe find an online distance learning program that will bring you up to speed and into the 21st century.
Perhaps we should get rid of all the ads, open up unlimited FTP access to all data holdings, provide free career postings, give away all of the books rather than selling them etc... Sorry but it "aint gonna happen"
I will remind you that this is a commercial enterprise and we have staff to pay, T1 lines to pay for etc...
Oh, and since you are so nauseated by the site try using our search engine at http://search.geocomm.com to locate some less nauseating sites
Regards Glenn
Ps: the Wall Street Journal recently published a column regarding TV ads now coming online... I would love to see Mr. Heitzman's face if streaming video ad for McDonalds popped up the next time he tried downloading some of the free data... talk about priceless!
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> > The level of advertising animation has risen to a nauseating level at > http://www.GeoComm.com. The site is not longer usable by human beings. > > Please reduce the number of simultaenous animations - the site should be a > disgrace to its owners. &g
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