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Subject: RE: GISList: http://www.GeoComm.com Nauseating
Date:  02/13/2002 10:43:40 AM
From:  Anthony Quartararo



Here here.

Robert, Where have you been for the last 5 years? Despite the fact that
market research reports debunk online ads all the time, websites continue to
sell "visual real estate" at a healthy clip, and advertisers continue to
compete for your eyeballs. If you don't like it, move on to one that is not
so ad intensive, create your own portal, or just sit in silence and spare
the rest of us.

I don't personally like the GeoComm site for similar reasons, and so I do
not spend much time visiting it in any given month, but I do know that is
their business model, and in case you haven't been paying attention over the
last few months, times are tough. If you have a suggestion for a different
business model that eliminates the need to post ads (they are a hassle to
manage) then I am sure GeoComm and many others will be glad to hear it.
Until then, spare us.

Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: Weaver, Chris [mailto:CWeaver@icfconsulting.com\
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 4:22 PM
To: Glenn Letham: Robert Heitzman: gislist@geocomm.com
Subject: RE: GISList: http://www.GeoComm.com Nauseating


i'm not fond of ads either, and yes glenn uses animated ads as anyone else
displaying ads on the net is.

...at least he is not using http://www.unitedvirtualities.com/shoshkeles.htm

or any of the other "take over your screen" ads as seen on
www.sportingnews.com or even at the olympics (www.olympics.com) site. The
one on the olympics site that I saw the other day, faded the entire screen
to the ad, then returned the to the main page. Highly bothersome. In
comparison Geocomm's are relatively limited in size and scope.

At least glenn is providing us all with a highly valuable service without
being a royal pain.... besides he puts his name on the line every day.
He's on this listserv and everyone can yell and scream and he answers them
in turn. How often have you seen Gates, Dangermond, or "fill in big shot,"
recently trolling the listservs and usenets of the world.


I'm no friend to ads though, in fact I like glenn's comment "Perhaps we
should get rid of all the ads, open up unlimited FTP access to all data
holdings, provide free career postings, give away all of the books rather
than selling them etc..."
... *sigh* ... if only....


btw, anyone read "Toxic Sludge Is Good for You! : Lies, Damn Lies and the
Public Relations Industry" ??
(http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1567510604/qid=1013548694/sr=8-1/ref
=sr_8_67_1/103-0312219-7546232)
let me know how it is :-)


Anyhow....





-----Original Message-----
From: Glenn Letham [mailto:editor@geocomm.com\
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 3:36 PM
To: Robert Heitzman: gislist@geocomm.com
Subject: Re: GISList: http://www.GeoComm.com Nauseating


Robert,
if you have problems with the GeoComm site please feel free to contact us at
850-897-6778 or email directly to info@geocomm.com

Venting your childish frustrations on this list is not appropriate nor do
your remarks make any sense in today's business economy - i suggest you
consider enrolling in ECON 101 at a local instutution or maybe find an
online distance learning program that will bring you up to speed and into
the 21st century.

Perhaps we should get rid of all the ads, open up unlimited FTP access to
all data holdings, provide free career postings, give away all of the books
rather than selling them etc...
Sorry but it "aint gonna happen"

I will remind you that this is a commercial enterprise and we have staff to
pay, T1 lines to pay for etc...

Oh, and since you are so nauseated by the site try using our search engine
at http://search.geocomm.com to locate some less nauseating sites

Regards
Glenn

Ps: the Wall Street Journal recently published a column regarding TV ads now
coming online... I would love to see Mr. Heitzman's face if streaming video
ad for McDonalds popped up the next time he tried downloading some of the
free data... talk about priceless!


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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Heitzman" <rheitzman@hotmail.com>
To: <gislist@geocomm.com>
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2002 12:49 PM
Subject: GISList: http://www.GeoComm.com Nauseating


>
> The level of advertising animation has risen to a nauseating level at
> http://www.GeoComm.com. The site is not longer usable by human beings.
>
> Please reduce the number of simultaenous animations - the site should be a
> disgrace to its owners.
&g

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