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| Subject: | RE: GISList: more on GIS market metrics |
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02/13/2002 05:36:15 PM |
| From: |
Neil Havermale |
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Carlos -
I'll add my thoughts and confirm rule-of-thumbs are more likely spot on that wrong. They are typically formed by those who have had to do rather than by those who think about it. These rules-of-thumb are dissertation summaries by PhDs from the University of Hard-knocks.
I can see that the market in the last year or two has evolved into a "free"-for-all debate. Data that we used to have pay for is now "almost" in the "public domain" with the exception that hybrid business organizations are attempting, and I stress, attempting to distribute this free-data at cost or some approximation of that which seems acceptable to those who don't understand there are costs to hosting freebies.... Most of data demand is driven by a project requirement and not some lofty notion of the collection of a library of reference.
My decade of experience in the GIS data collection industry versus simply buying or downloading is once the other guy's data is gained then invariably its format is not quite what we wanted nor as accurate as it should be. So in cases like this there is a significant cost beyond the physiological cost of diminished expectations. The typical free-data expectation and experience - 1) Gosh, its free aren't we lucky!. 2) Man, how long is this going to take (the first download attempt). 3) Its just not loading, must be a glitch in the download. 4) Man, how long is going to take this time (second download). 5) Dam, its still wrong. I've promised the boss... (wouldn't load the second time). 6) Help! Can anyone on this list help me? 7) HelloList.. Ok, I've downloaded the importation tools but I am getting a "not compatible with this version" message. 8) Help! Does anyone on this list know how to contact the author of the shareware import tool xxxx? 9) Whew, its loading. Thank the Gods... 10) Oh no, this is junk. Its all wrong. 11)Hello, how much is ...... And 12) Are you certain you can't just send it to me in email today?
On satellite data. Wow, too cool. Invariably the "project" needs imagery. Its available but you have to buy 40,000 square kilometers at "only $0.50 per 1,000 hectares - a fraction of what was paid only a year ago". The quick cost per image for the project's 400 hectares soars into the thousands of bucks per project image. Worst, you find that the archive images (the lowest "advertised" cost you expect to pay) requires two if not three images that must be edge matched and normalized. More money, more complexity, more frustration. The cost of having the image experts deliver "just what you need" is usually 10 fold the budget of the entire data provision for the project including your salary as well as being ten weeks out before delivery!
Humorless? Not. It far too true. We are caught between the philosophy of its public and my tax dollars paid for this and its not what I wanted: "They" should fix it. And the pragmatic reality that good things are never really free. Very topical and I hope your quest is not a burden to share.... I too am interested.
MidNight Mapper aka Neil
-----Original Message----- From: Carlos Lopez [mailto:carlos@manet.clearinghouse.com.uy\ Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2002 5:15 AM To: gislist@geocomm.com Cc: carlos@manet.clearinghouse.com.uy Subject: GISList: more on GIS market metrics
Hello everybody: I am interested in a particular area within GIS markets: the size of the raw data market.....
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