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| Subject: | GISList: Re: Datasets vs. secrets |
| Date: |
06/13/2002 03:58:13 PM |
| From: |
Peter Shary |
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Viktoras,
I have prepared a new web page with 66 links on datasets
for various countries available at
http://members.fortunecity.com/eco4/giseco/id8.html
and, although I'm agree with you, here are some additions.
The "security paranoya" was and is still in Russia, but
not only in this country. News on security from USA is that
new global high-resolution DEMs (1 and 3 arc seconds, i.e.,
about 30 and 90 meters resolution) of Shuttle Radar Topography
Mission (SRTM, USA-Germany-Italy) for 80% of Earth
is now being considered by NASA for 30-m resolution
as restricted because of security. Examples from NASA:
"It is intended that SRTM data be unclassified: however
raw radar data, full-resolution terrain height data (ie.
Level-2 data sets) or strip DEM with 30 meter spatial
resolution for areas outside the United States will be
under the control of the Department of Defense. Release
of these data will be in accordance with guidelines mutually
developed by NIMA and NASA".
(http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/mou.html)
"Ultimately, the final released SRTM Digital Elevation
Models will be at 30 meters for the United States and at
90 meters for the rest of the world, although NASA and
NIMA are still discussing these issues".
(http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/dataprod.htm)
Resembles the situation in Russia...
Peter Shary,
Scientific worker and GIS developer,
Russian Federation
----- original message -----
From : "viktoras d" <firekv@hotmail.com>
To : ajq3@spatialnetworks.com, gislist@geocomm.com
Subject : Re: GISList: the sky is NOT falling....
Date : Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:24:47 +0300
You know, while reading your letter I remembered the Soviet times in my
country. The "security paranoya" was so strong that all major towns and
cities were removed from their real positions in all maps issued inside the
territory of the USSR in these times. Any Bathymetric maps was a top secret
of the state, etc... Weird things are happening these days too. I do not
like these tendentions at all :(
From: "Anthony Quartararo" <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com>
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FILETIME=[5C5D4280:01C2124E]
I've just finished reading the latest EOM hardcopy issue (their online is a
few months behind). I noted with some initial interest the "Industry
Insider" article about security and offshore data conversion.
It would seem, that the author's contention that utilities and
telecommunications
networks are in imminent danger by would-be saboteurs.
Further, the author recommends incredible overnight changes to the way data
conversion
operations are run in the "Third World". We are at risk of piracy,
terrorism, industrial sabotage, not to mention a host of implied threats by
simply outsourcing data convesion functions to foreign companies.
The article contends that unless drastic measures are taken immediately to
turn otherwise humble production operations into Fort Knox fortresses, very
bad things may start happening. What left me dumbfounded was the sentence
that said "...cost savings is [sic] always an important factor...it should
never lead any business model." What? An article about outsourcing to
offshore companies claiming that price shouldn't matter? The point I
suppose is that Chicken Little is getting much too much press
time, and has crept into the GIS profession all too easily.
Look at every major ISV and consulting firm. A year ago, Homeland Security
would have been mistaken for some Pat Buchanan or Le Pen initiative. Now,
everyone has reinvented themselves and overloaded that tiny little Homeland
Security wagon, and people are buying it
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