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| Subject: | GISList: Re: Datasets vs. secrets |
| Date: |
06/14/2002 02:06:37 AM |
| From: |
viktoras d |
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Peter,
Thanks for the dataset link and valuable information.
Does anybody know what is the security related situation in other European countries (Finland, Sweden, Germany, etc...). Although I live in Lithuania I am working for a Finish company now. We are going to put some high resolution bathymetric and underwater habitat maps from the Baltic Sea produced by our "inteligent" GIS based modeling system on-line. Is it alowed in Finland and other countries surrounding the Baltic sea ? Or are we commiting a crime :) ?
Viktoras
>From: "Peter Shary" <peter_shary@hotmail.com> >To: firekv@hotmail.com >CC: gislist@geocomm.com >Subject: Re: Datasets vs. secrets >Date: Fri, 14 Jun 2002 00:58:02 +0400 > >Viktoras, > >I have prepared a new web page with 66 links on datasets >for various countries available at >http://members.fortunecity.com/eco4/giseco/id8.html >and, although I'm agree with you, here are some additions. > >The "security paranoya" was and is still in Russia, but >not only in this country. News on security from USA is that >new global high-resolution DEMs (1 and 3 arc seconds, i.e., >about 30 and 90 meters resolution) of Shuttle Radar Topography >Mission (SRTM, USA-Germany-Italy) for 80% of Earth >is now being considered by NASA for 30-m resolution >as restricted because of security. Examples from NASA: > >"It is intended that SRTM data be unclassified: however >raw radar data, full-resolution terrain height data (ie. >Level-2 data sets) or strip DEM with 30 meter spatial >resolution for areas outside the United States will be >under the control of the Department of Defense. Release >of these data will be in accordance with guidelines mutually >developed by NIMA and NASA". >(http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/mou.html) > >"Ultimately, the final released SRTM Digital Elevation >Models will be at 30 meters for the United States and at >90 meters for the rest of the world, although NASA and >NIMA are still discussing these issues". >(http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/srtm/dataprod.htm) > >Resembles the situation in Russia... > >Peter Shary, >Scientific worker and GIS developer, >Russian Federation > >----- original message ----- >From : "viktoras d" <firekv@hotmail.com> >To : ajq3@spatialnetworks.com, gislist@geocomm.com >Subject : Re: GISList: the sky is NOT falling.... >Date : Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:24:47 +0300 > >You know, while reading your letter I remembered the Soviet times in my >country. The "security paranoya" was so strong that all major towns and >cities were removed from their real positions in all maps issued inside the >territory of the USSR in these times. Any Bathymetric maps was a top secret >of the state, etc... Weird things are happening these days too. I do not >like these tendentions at all :( > >From: "Anthony Quartararo" <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com> >Reply-To: <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com> >To: <gislist@geocomm.com> >Subject: GISList: the sky is NOT falling.... >Date: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 16:23:48 -0400 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from mail.thinkburst.com ([204.214.64.110]) by >hotmail.com with >Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.4905): Wed, 12 Jun 2002 13:18:48 -0700 >Received: from mailgate.thinkburstmedia.com >(gateway.thinkburstmedia.com >[204.214.64.100])by mail.thinkburst.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id >D6627B028for <firekv@hotmail.com>: Wed, 12 Jun 2002 15:19:12 -0500 (CDT) >Received: (qmail 25576 invoked by uid 888): 12 Jun 2002 20:16:40 -0000 >Received: (qmail 25568 invoked from network): 12 Jun 2002 20:16:40 -0000 >Mailing-List: contact gislist-help@geocomm.com: run by ezmlm >Delivered-To: mailing list gislist@geocomm.com >Message-ID: <000301c2124f$0f78da50$6401a8c0@K2> >X-Priority: 3 (Normal) >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook CWS, Build 9.0.2416 (9.0.2911.0) >Importance: Normal >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2600.0000 >X-Sanitizer: This message has been sanitized! >Return-Path: >gislist-return-4561-firekv=hotmail.com@geocomm.com >X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Jun 2002 20:18:48.0616 (UTC) >FILETIME=[5C5D4280:01C2124E] > >I've just finished reading the latest EOM hardcopy issue (their online is a >few months behind). I noted with some initial interest the "Industry >Insider" article about security and offshore data conversion. >It would seem, that the author's contention that utilities and >telecommunications >networks are in imminent danger by would-be saboteurs. > >Further, the author recommends incredible ove
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