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| Subject: | Re: GISList: Hawaii GIS & GPS coordinate discrepancy |
| Date: |
07/31/2002 07:32:27 PM |
| From: |
Peter Earls |
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Thomas,
Are your UTM coordinates for roads generated directly from the GPS receiver or it's software as opposed to projecting lat-longs in a GIS? I ask because I have found a discrepancy in Oklahoma that may be related.
I have found that UTM NAD27 coordinates generated by several makes and models of GPS receivers (Trimble (including Pathfinder Office software), Garmin, Magellen, and Rockwell using the military P code) generate coordinates that are consistently 27 m east of the same UTM coordinates given by ESRI software and by the UTMS program ( http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/PC_PROD/pc_prod.shtml ) when I project the lat-long coordinates read from these receivers. I found this to be the case so far in 2 locations about 75 miles apart.
I don't know why this discrepancy exists yet, but a surveyor has told me that NGS sets the standards, so supposedly the UTMS program should be the 'correct' coordinates. But UTM coordinates from GPS overlay considerably closer (5-6 m difference on average) on DOQs than the ESRI and UTMS coordinates.
I have yet to find any datum/spheroid differences that amount to this distance in Oklahoma (NAD27 and NAD83 differ by ~200 m mostly in the north-south direction here).
- Pete
================================================================== Peter Earls Oklahoma State University earlsp@okstate.edu
On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Mike Flannigan wrote:
> > It sounds very familiar. I noticed on a trip to Hawaii this year that > the entire GNIS database of features is off by the same, consistent, > ~100 meters you notice. As I recall, features are really east of the > location given in GNIS. Not sure what the problem is, but I > suspect it is datum related. GNIS appears to be NAD27 for the > lower 48, but it's not well documented in my version. > > > Mike Flannigan > > > Thomas Harris wrote: > > > Hi List: > > We are having some difficulty with out Hawaii GIS. I received USGS > > DRG's that are in UTM NAD27. Overlaying our Hawaii roads coverage > > reveals a uniform offset in the DRG data of over 100 meters. We have > > confidence in our road data because of field validation with GPS. I > > suspect that the problem is perhaps unique to Hawaii. Does this > > problem sound familiar to anyone working with Hawaii data? > > Thanks in advance, > > Thomas > > > > To unsubscribe, write to gislist-unsubscribe@geocomm.com > ________________________________________________________________________ > Setup a GeoCommunity Account and have access to FAST DataDownloads > and Premium Career Posting at a discounted rate! > https://www.geocomm.com/cgi-bin/accounts/login > > On-line Archives available at > http://spatialnews.geocomm.com/community/lists/ > >
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