Proceed to GeoCommunity Home Page


SpatialNewsGIS Data DepotGeoImaging ChannelGIS and MappingSoftwareGIS JobsGeoBids-RFPsGeoCommunity MarketplaceGIS Event Listings
HomeLoginAccountsAboutContactAdvertiseSearchFAQsForumsCartFree Newsletter

Sponsored by:


TOPICS
Today's News

Submit News

Feature Articles

Product Reviews

Education

News Affiliates

Discussions

Newsletters

Email Lists

Polls

Editor's Corner


SpatialNews Daily Newswire!
Subscribe now!

Latest Industry Headlines
SiteVision GIS Partnership With City of Roanoke VA Goes Live
Garmin® Introduces Delta™ Upland Remote Trainer with Beeper
Caliper Offers Updated Chile Data for Use with Maptitude 2013
Southampton’s Go! Rhinos Trail Mapped by Ordnance Survey
New Approach to Measuring Coral Growth Offers Valuable Tool for Reef Managers
Topo ly - Tailor-Fit for Companies' Online Mapping Needs

Latest GeoBids-RFPs
Nautical Charts*Poland
Software & Telemetry GPS
Spatial Data Management-DC
Geospatial and Mapping-DC
Next-Gen 911-MO

Recent Job Opportunities
Planner/GIS Specialist
Team Leader- Grape Supply Systems
Geospatial Developer

Recent Discussions
Raster images
cartographic symbology
Telephone Exchange areas in Europe
Problem showcasing Vector map on Windows CE device
Base map

GeoCommunity Mailing List
 
Mailing List Archives

Subject: Re: GISList: Hawaii GIS & GPS coordinate discrepancy
Date:  07/31/2002 07:32:27 PM
From:  Peter Earls



Thomas,

Are your UTM coordinates for roads generated directly from the GPS
receiver or it's software as opposed to projecting lat-longs in a GIS? I
ask because I have found a discrepancy in Oklahoma that may be related.

I have found that UTM NAD27 coordinates generated by several makes and
models of GPS receivers (Trimble (including Pathfinder Office software),
Garmin, Magellen, and Rockwell using the military P code) generate
coordinates that are consistently 27 m east of the same UTM coordinates
given by ESRI software and by the UTMS program (
http://www.ngs.noaa.gov/PC_PROD/pc_prod.shtml ) when I project the
lat-long coordinates read from these receivers. I found this to be the
case so far in 2 locations about 75 miles apart.

I don't know why this discrepancy exists yet, but a surveyor has told me
that NGS sets the standards, so supposedly the UTMS program should be the
'correct' coordinates. But UTM coordinates from GPS overlay considerably
closer (5-6 m difference on average) on DOQs than the ESRI and UTMS
coordinates.

I have yet to find any datum/spheroid differences that amount to this
distance in Oklahoma (NAD27 and NAD83 differ by ~200 m mostly in the
north-south direction here).

- Pete

==================================================================
Peter Earls
Oklahoma State University
earlsp@okstate.edu

On Wed, 31 Jul 2002, Mike Flannigan wrote:

>
> It sounds very familiar. I noticed on a trip to Hawaii this year that
> the entire GNIS database of features is off by the same, consistent,
> ~100 meters you notice. As I recall, features are really east of the
> location given in GNIS. Not sure what the problem is, but I
> suspect it is datum related. GNIS appears to be NAD27 for the
> lower 48, but it's not well documented in my version.
>
>
> Mike Flannigan
>
>
> Thomas Harris wrote:
>
> > Hi List:
> > We are having some difficulty with out Hawaii GIS. I received USGS
> > DRG's that are in UTM NAD27. Overlaying our Hawaii roads coverage
> > reveals a uniform offset in the DRG data of over 100 meters. We have
> > confidence in our road data because of field validation with GPS. I
> > suspect that the problem is perhaps unique to Hawaii. Does this
> > problem sound familiar to anyone working with Hawaii data?
> > Thanks in advance,
> > Thomas
>
>
>
> To unsubscribe, write to gislist-unsubscribe@geocomm.com
> ________________________________________________________________________
> Setup a GeoCommunity Account and have access to FAST DataDownloads
> and Premium Career Posting at a discounted rate!
> https://www.geocomm.com/cgi-bin/accounts/login
>
> On-line Archives available at
> http://spatialnews.geocomm.com/community/lists/
>
>



To unsubscribe, write to gislist-unsubscribe@geocomm.com
________________________________________________________________________
Setup a GeoCommunity Account and have access to FAST DataDownloads
and Premium Career Posting at a discounted rate!
https://www.geocomm.com/cgi-bin/accounts/login

On-line Archives available at
http://spatialnews.geocomm.com/community/lists/


Sponsored by:

For information
regarding
advertising rates
Click Here!

Copyright© 1995-2012 MindSites Group / Privacy Policy

GeoCommunity™, Wireless Developer Network™, GIS Data Depot®, and Spatial News™
including all logos and other service marks
are registered trademarks and trade communities of
MindSites Group