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| Subject: | Re: GISList: ArcView vs MapInfo vs Manifold/please! no arguing |
| Date: |
08/28/2002 10:39:27 AM |
| From: |
SRobertson |
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You guys seem to be well informed. Would it be possible for you to discuss
the functionality of these GIS without arguing? I'm sure there are others on
the list that feel the way I do. I am an ArcView/Info user and have had my
share of problems with ESRI products, but am interested in MapInfo and
Manifold as I have no experience with them. I would really appreciate it if
you guys could make some more constructive comments regarding the common
uses of GIS and in what way these three are superior or inferior without
making it personal.
If you have to flame me please send it to me and not the list.
thank you,
Steve Robertson
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dimitri Rotow" <dar@manifold.net>
To: <gislist@geocomm.com>
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 11:02 PM
Subject: RE: GISList: ArcView vs MapInfo vs Manifold
>
>
> >
> > This is the Nth time (N >> 3) in just a few weeks that someone has made
> > this claim. I can no longer stand by and be tarred with this brush,
this
> > undiscriminating, inclusive "all" that commences the statement.
> >
> > I challenge Dimitri or anyone else to support this claim with
> > evidence. (How you "would feel" does not count.) And Dimitri, if you
> > cannot, I believe you owe public apologies to a lot of "journalistic
> > organizations."
> >
>
> Bill,
>
> Given the overall editorial integrity of Directions Magazine I should have
> used a qualifier. It would have been more accurate for me to break this
> down into two observations: a) that all of the journalistic organizations
> reporting on GIS are small enough so that writing a major, in-depth review
> is a serious drain on their resources, and b) that small trade journals in
> small markets usually cannot alienate their advertisers in significant
ways
> and expect to survive in the long run, and that this process deeply
> influences the editorial content of most (but not all) such journals.
>
> As for specific evidence, I regret to say that there is very much of it.
We
> routinely are solicited by journalistic organizations for cash payments
for
> everything from straight editorial commentary to reviews to reprints of
> press releases. Sometimes this is dressed up by asking us to "sponsor" a
> piece and sometimes it is just a simple quid pro quo. I've seen this pop
up
> in GIS a lot recently, but I have also seen it in previous lives working
> with the trade press for Intel and for companies before that going back to
> 1985. It's business as usual in trade press marketing.
>
> As much as it pains me to answer your challenge, take a look at this link
at
> the Directions Magazine website:
>
> http://www.directionsmag.com/ads.php?p=26
>
> Here's what the link says:
>
> "In January of 2002, we will be adding three new sections to our
> newsletters.
>
> Image of the Week
> Map of the Week
> Solution of the Month
>
> Image of the Week - This will be a showcase for remotely sensed imagery or
> aerial photography. The image will be accompanied by your 50-75 word
caption
> describing it's application and your homepage URL.
>
> Map of the Week - Just as the image only in map format. Will also include
> your 50-75 word caption describing it's application and your homepage URL.
>
> Solution of the Month - The solution will involve a customized development
> of software, spatial database and geospatial data that was delivered to a
> specific client. This is a great way to show off your talents and let
others
> know how you can help them. A 200-250 word description of how you solved a
> problem that can also point to a 750-1000 word "advertorial" that would
> accompany your "Gold" or "Silver" listing on our site.
>
> These items are economically priced. The Image and Map of the Week are
$250
> per issue and the Solution of the Month is $1250 for four issues. They can
> showcase your company in a direct way without crunching your budget!
>
> Images and maps can be sent to us in any format and we will customize for
> the magazine. The bigger, the better!
>
> These three areas will have a link in our popular newsletter to our site
> where the image, map or web solution will be seen and explained. The
image,
> map or web solution will move to a gallery on Directions magazine and be a
> permanent archive."
>
> The above is a fairly typical situation in ezines. I picked a Directions
> Magazine example because in general your book is very honest and because
you
> raised the issue. However, a simple search of the Advertising pages
posted
> on just about any ezine's web site will reveal a lot of similar stuff. A
>
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