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Subject: RE: GISList: If our tax dollars made the database, GIS or otherwi se ... it belongs to us.
Date:  11/20/2002 01:29:49 AM
From:  Simmonds, Ashley (PTB)



this line only seems to be making a grey area even more so.

personally, i'm all for open source and freedom to all electrons etc., but
the fact is there's no way to shield from the lowest common denominator,
being those people who'll do anything if it has the possibility of cash.
sometimes known as entrepreneurs, but generally idiots who ruin things for
the rest of us.

i don't know the legal issues too well regarding publicly funded enterprise,
but i'm sure there's more to it than "if my taxes paid for it, then it's
mine". it'd be nice if people could be trusted, but that'll never be the
case.

all the werk i have done is as an agent of state government, but i'm wary of
who i provide my data to as a lot of werk has gone into it, and i don't want
some bastard putting their name on it and making a million from it.

which brings up another interesting point... does that also mean that the
people within governments/counties whatever who werk with the data, can then
just take it because of the FOIA and sell it off themselves?

i'm sure it happens, but i don't think that's the way the cookie should be
crumbling.

ash

-----Original Message-----
From: Research@NucleusGIS.com [mailto:research@nucleusgis.com]
Sent: Wednesday, 20 November 2002 3:46 PM
To: gislist@geocomm.com
Subject: GISList: If our tax dollars made the database, GIS or otherwise
... it belongs to us.


Great !!

The same tax dollars made the $4 million armoured BMW my Head Of Government
is buying. Should we expect a ride in it ?

Best Wishes to all who said Yes.

----- Original Message -----
From: HealthMaps <healthmaps@attbi.com>
To: <gislist@geocomm.com>
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2002 8:39 AM
Subject: RE: GISList: Cost of GIS Data


> In the state of WA this is precisely the argument that even (most) local
> governments use to make data GIS essentially free. The state supreme court
> ruled against a large city who wanted to charge hundreds of $ for pretty
> basic GIS data.
>
> This was compounded by dozens for freedom of information act requests
which
> also did not fall on deaf ears by the Court either.
>
> Public Domain means just that, we paid for it, its ours. Period. No CD ROM
> cutting costs, no hourly costs for making files, etc. Just plain hand it
> over.
>
> Fortunately the governor's office supports this notion too. Not just with
> GIS data but with any state data. Pending privacy concerns with individual
> level data, it is available. The biggest hoop is Institutional Review
Board
> consent for geocoded individual level records, which has proved to be
> workable and reasonable.
>
> If our tax dollars made the database, GIS or otherwise ... it belongs to
us.
>
> R Hoskins
> Olympia, WA
>
>
>


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