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| Subject: | RE: GISList: Ouch! What timing.... |
| Date: |
11/21/2002 02:55:30 PM |
| From: |
Anthony Quartararo |
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Some interesting points you make. Having not been, nor intending any
time soon to visit those countries, I've no absolute way to validate my
point or for that matter, yours. However, given the highly antagonistic
relationship that the US has had with all three countries for decades, I
think you are selling short the propaganda machine in those places.
People read papers, those papers are tools of the Government, those
Governments want their people to know where the "Great Satan" is, and
what, at least the national boundary silhouette looks like. Same goes
for the Stars and Stripes. People aren't just burning a colorful flag,
they know it's the US flag, that's why they burn it. This is a little
far afield from the original point, but it does not really matter why
they know, my point was that they would know, a whole lot more than what
that NGS survey shows about Americans and other western nations.
No doubt that maps are continually used for political/economic gain,
they are very effective at that, the good along with the bad. However,
given the historical apathetic voter turnout across the land, I'd
suspect that folks see through it all and realize just how little
influence they truly have.
-----Original Message-----
From: Dimitri Rotow [mailto:dar@manifold.net]
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 3:19 PM
To: gislist@geocomm.com
Subject: RE: GISList: Ouch! What timing....
> My guess is that 99% of Iraqis, Iranians and perhaps even N. Koreans,
> know where the US is on a map and may even know where Washington DC
> is, and where NYC is as well. It's not a matter of money per se,
> because
Ummm, even allowing for some rhetorical flourish in making your point
I'd strongly disagree. Most Iraquis, Iranians and North Koreans are
woefully ignorant of world geography. I doubt that 89% percent could
pick out the US (or even their own countries) on a world map. Given the
dictatorial nature of the regimes it might be the very first time many
respondants would have even seen a world map.
Keep in mind that in fundamentalist Islamic nations women are not
formally educated, which tends to remove about 50% of the population
from close familiarity with world geography. Also, recall that in
places like North Korea maps are still state secrets (not to mention
that a significant percentage of North Koreans are starving to death and
so have little mindshare for world geography).
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