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| Subject: | Re: GISList: Project help |
| Date: |
11/22/2002 12:02:43 AM |
| From: |
David Nealey |
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Since you asked...
For a site like the one that I suspect Florida Bass would be proud of, the
cost of implementation (i.e., the purchase price of the GIS software, either
ArcIMS or MapGuide or GeoMedia Web Map or MapXtreme [guessing $20K for basic
s/w]: the second and third year software maintenance contracts [$5K?]: the
purchase of the database software, either DB2 or Oracle or MS SQL Server
Enterprise [$20K-$40K ?]: the database design and development [$20-$40K ?]:
data QC [$10-$20K?, assuming good data already exists]: customized
applications development [$60-$120K ?]: site testing and retesting [$40K?]:
site hosting [??]: hardware procurement [$20-40K ?]: staff training [$15K?]:
and, marketing [a lot]) would be hundreds of thousands of dollars. The
marketing of the site alone could be more than the amount that I stated.
And I haven't even taken into consideration the cost of any new data that
may be needed or the purchase of data from the companies that you mention in
your email.
But you are right. If there is a market then someone will provide the
service. My point is that I do not want my tax money spent on something
that I would consider a commercial endeavor. I want the money that I send
Florida each year spent on addressing problems with the educational system
and other legitimate government functions.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Quartararo" <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com>
To: "'David Nealey'" <dnealey@worldnet.att.net>: <gislist@geocomm.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: GISList: Project help
> David,
>
> I'm not really sure what your point is, seems to be misdirected,
> however, while I don't participate in Florida fishing and/or boating,
> that industry rakes in tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars each
> year in the state alone, not to mention nation wide. If there's a
> market for it, someone will provide a service. It has nothing to do
> with our failing educational system. As far as your estimate is
> concerned, not sure how you come up with estimates like that so fast,
> but it seems overstated.
>
> Perhaps you can point Dan in the direction of those "private sector"
> projects already underway .
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Nealey [mailto:dnealey@worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 6:00 PM
> To: ajq3@spatialnetworks.com: gislist@geocomm.com
> Subject: Re: GISList: Project help
>
>
> I sure hope that the State of Florida will come up with money for its
> teachers and educational system before it starts helping tourists decide
> where to drop a line. This project could cost hundreds of thousands of
> dollars and it should be done in the private sector. The web service
> alone is at least a few hundred thousand dollars to implement and annual
> maintenance will not be pennies either.
>
> Similar projects are already underway in the private sector.
>
> David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Quartararo" <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com>
> To: <gislist@geocomm.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:45 PM
> Subject: RE: GISList: Project help
>
>
> > Dan,
> >
> > Have you tried the US Army Corps of Engineers? They have a mandate to
> > make sure that those 3000 miles of navigable waterways are in fact
> > navigable. They would likely have maps for what you need and again,
> > since it is a public domain issue, you are likely to get them one way
> > or another. The State of Florida can and should provide those without
>
> > causing much heartburn. Recent threads on this list have discussed
> > various public domain issues as well.
> >
> > Also, you may want to contact the individual Water Management
> > Districts, the USF, or companies such as URS, PBS&J, and other
> > engineering/consulting firms that have mapped those over and over
> > again. Also, the USGS may have some resources too.
> >
> > This might get you started, but mapping things like bait shops, boat
> > ramps, gas stations is not likely something that these government
> > organizations would have on their base maps, but, you will likely find
>
> > them in tabular form or some county plat maps or business records.
> > Sounds like a fun project. Best of luck.
> >
> > Anthony
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Dan Posner [mailto:dposner@flabass.org]
> > Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 4:58 PM
> > To: gislist@geocomm.com
> > Subject: GISList: Project help
> >
> >
> > November 21, 2002
> >
> > To: The GIS Community
> > From: Dan Posner, President
> > T
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