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| Subject: | RE: GISList: Project help |
| Date: |
11/22/2002 06:51:05 AM |
| From: |
Anthony Quartararo |
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Thanks David. I'm not doubting the numbers, ISV licensing IS very
expensive. I'll give Dimitri a plug here since I think it is deserved
and warranted. A license of Manifold v5.x for ~ $250 would be
sufficient I think for getting the job done of displaying maps as a web
service. A robust enough RDBMS would surely be an investment, but done
right, it wouldn't need to be replaced. Data, if public domain, should
not be that expensive, but formatting, QA/QC, etc. might cost some, over
the life of the project. Internet marketing is pennies per target user.
There are many incidental costs that you identify that would likely need
to be accounted for, but it may not be as much of an obstacle as
initially presented. Dan will have to be the judge of that.
Agree with you on the other issue.
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: David Nealey [mailto:dnealey@worldnet.att.net]
Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 1:04 AM
To: ajq3@spatialnetworks.com: gislist@geocomm.com
Subject: Re: GISList: Project help
Since you asked...
For a site like the one that I suspect Florida Bass would be proud of,
the cost of implementation (i.e., the purchase price of the GIS
software, either ArcIMS or MapGuide or GeoMedia Web Map or MapXtreme
[guessing $20K for basic s/w]: the second and third year software
maintenance contracts [$5K?]: the purchase of the database software,
either DB2 or Oracle or MS SQL Server Enterprise [$20K-$40K ?]: the
database design and development [$20-$40K ?]: data QC [$10-$20K?,
assuming good data already exists]: customized applications development
[$60-$120K ?]: site testing and retesting [$40K?]: site hosting [??]:
hardware procurement [$20-40K ?]: staff training [$15K?]: and, marketing
[a lot]) would be hundreds of thousands of dollars. The marketing of
the site alone could be more than the amount that I stated. And I
haven't even taken into consideration the cost of any new data that may
be needed or the purchase of data from the companies that you mention in
your email.
But you are right. If there is a market then someone will provide the
service. My point is that I do not want my tax money spent on something
that I would consider a commercial endeavor. I want the money that I
send Florida each year spent on addressing problems with the educational
system and other legitimate government functions.
David
----- Original Message -----
From: "Anthony Quartararo" <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com>
To: "'David Nealey'" <dnealey@worldnet.att.net>: <gislist@geocomm.com>
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 7:02 PM
Subject: RE: GISList: Project help
> David,
>
> I'm not really sure what your point is, seems to be misdirected,
> however, while I don't participate in Florida fishing and/or boating,
> that industry rakes in tens, if not hundreds of millions of dollars
> each year in the state alone, not to mention nation wide. If there's
> a market for it, someone will provide a service. It has nothing to do
> with our failing educational system. As far as your estimate is
> concerned, not sure how you come up with estimates like that so fast,
> but it seems overstated.
>
> Perhaps you can point Dan in the direction of those "private sector"
> projects already underway .
>
> Anthony
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Nealey [mailto:dnealey@worldnet.att.net]
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 6:00 PM
> To: ajq3@spatialnetworks.com: gislist@geocomm.com
> Subject: Re: GISList: Project help
>
>
> I sure hope that the State of Florida will come up with money for its
> teachers and educational system before it starts helping tourists
> decide where to drop a line. This project could cost hundreds of
> thousands of dollars and it should be done in the private sector. The
> web service alone is at least a few hundred thousand dollars to
> implement and annual maintenance will not be pennies either.
>
> Similar projects are already underway in the private sector.
>
> David
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Anthony Quartararo" <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com>
> To: <gislist@geocomm.com>
> Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2002 2:45 PM
> Subject: RE: GISList: Project help
>
>
> > Dan,
> >
> > Have you tried the US Army Corps of Engineers? They have a mandate
> > to make sure that those 3000 miles of navigable waterways are in
> > fact navigable. They would likely have maps for what you need and
> > again, since it is a public domain issue, you are likely to get them
> > one way or another. The State of Florida can and should provide
> > those without
>
> > causing much heartburn. Recent threads on this list have discussed
> > various public domain issues as well.
> >
>
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