No hit and run comments here. You commented, so tag, your it.=20=20
Rob, it's not a democracy. OGC could have 10,000 members and have 10,000 different ideas for specifications, but which ones do you think are going to be given priority, preference and finally, a viable life in the market? I'd suggest that only a select few. If it were truly a level playing field, why are there different levels of membership ? Secondly, by OGC's own admission, they are not promoting open source software, merely interoperability technology that meets their criteria.
And what about this "..a free, open source, compliant reference implementation for its major web services specifications"=20=20
Huh? Not conformant, or did I miss that? Or am I getting my marketing lingo all jumbled up. Only the major web services ? The minor ones aren't important?=20=20
"actions speak louder than words. As far as the fact that collaborating to create good specs takes a long time, name someone else in the geospatial world who is doing it faster than the OGC".=20
So, this business logic then says, "do something, no matter what it is, just DO something". As far as I know, OGC is the only game in town, unless you count all the major vendors independently promoting their proprietary technology while simultaneously promoting OGC specs, which, tends to get fuzzy (hedge fund mentality) after awhile.
It's not too far off to say that OGC specs are (just one more ) solution looking for a problem.=20=20
Anthony
-----Original Message----- From: Rob Hranac [mailto:rob.hranac@openplans.org]=20 Sent: Thursday, December 19, 2002 11:39 AM To: gislist@geocomm.com Subject: Re: GISList: OGC and Standards, - a response
All,
Without wading into this discussion too deeply, it is probably worth noting that our organization is an OGC member and we can hardly be described as a large corporate vendor. More to the point of this discussion, we are contracting to the OGC on an initiative (CITE) with the sole goal of making a free, open source, compliant reference implementation for its major web services specifications (WMS, WFS). Our two other collaborators on this project are the Centre for Computational Geography at Leeds (http://www.ccg.leeds.ac.uk/) and lat/lon (http://www.lat-lon.de/), both members who also don't fit the massive corporate monolith image some here are attempting to project on the OGC.
I think that in this case, actions speak louder than words. As far as the fact that collaborating to create good specs takes a long time, name someone else in the geospatial world who is doing it faster than the OGC. It has - in my opinion - done an admirable job of adhering to its ideals while simultaneously creating a viable model for implementing those ideals: the CITE project is just one of many examples of this.
Rob Hranac The Open Planning Project 377 Broadway, 11th Floor New York, NY 10013 w: www.openplans.org =20
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