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Subject: RE: GISList: Re: GIS P2P * Market Research Question *
Date:  01/24/2003 03:50:53 PM
From:  J Bee



Dear Mr. Naive 2003,

What, we're not professionals because we point out the
truth, i.e., reality about Dimitri? And now you have
thrown in your political correctness by accusing
people with different opions as "flaming".
CONGRATULTIONS!!! You have now also become Mr.
Pathetic 2003!!!

"Yes, Dimitri mention his software."

Please, you could put a friggin string on the back of
this guy, pull it, and get the same blah blah over and
over. Who cares if his software is good (?) - there
are several good (and better I might add) GIS oftware
packages out there, but thankfully, no one else
verbally tortures us the way he does. Hey, I know he
has the right, but I also have the right to respond.
If you don't like it, you get off the list!

I guarantee we won't miss your naiveness nor your
pathetic defense of Dimitri.

Bob


--- William Howell <WHowell@mclaneenv.com> wrote:
> I guess even amongst so called professionals, a list
> cannot be complete
> without those that can only respond by "flaming" and
> adding their always
> impressive insults. I thank you, you add so very
> much to the value of
> the list.
>
> Yes, Dimitri mentions his software (a bit often).
> So what? It's a good
> piece of software and he wants people to know about
> it. If it's really
> too much for you to ignore the "ads" then
> unsubscribe. I guarantee we
> won't miss you're rare posts that only serve to
> deride others.
>
> William L. Howell
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Wunneburger, Douglas F.
> [mailto:d-wunneburger@tamu.edu]
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 3:39 PM
> To: William Howell: gislist@geocomm.com
> Subject: Re: GISList: Re: GIS P2P * Market Research
> Question *
>
>
> I suggest you read again.
>
> To any moron who has read a tenth of the posts by
> Dimitri,
> "GIS software per seat now costs less than $250 a
> seat." = Manifold.
>
> Since, according to Dimitri, Manifold doesn't spend
> much on marketing,
> and judging by the amount of time he must spend on
> his submissions,
> apparently the GISList has become its de facto
> marketing department.
>
> I see he mentioned "less than $300 a seat" later in
> his post. We must
> be due for a price increase.
>
> Douglas Wunneburger
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "William Howell" <WHowell@mclaneenv.com>
> To: <gislist@geocomm.com>
> Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:02 PM
> Subject: RE: GISList: Re: GIS P2P * Market Research
> Question *
>
>
> > That's funny I didn't see him mention anything
> about Manifold. Yes,
> > he loves it and so do many other people that have
> made the switch or
> > at least checked it out but he merely stated a
> price cap (which
> > happens to coincide). Some of us are a bit tired
> of paying over a
> > grand for a piece of software that won't get you
> anywhere without
> > expensive extensions.
> >
> > BTW, who's doing word counts for opinion quality?
> >
> > William L. Howell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Allan Doyle
> [mailto:adoyle@intl-interfaces.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 2:41 PM
> > To: gislist@geocomm.com
> > Subject: RE: GISList: Re: GIS P2P * Market
> Research Question *
> >
> >
> > Since it's not always easy to read these
> diatribes, I'll help out.
> >
> > Dimitri said:
> >
> > 1. Keep it simple
> >
> > 2. Think about underlying data and services,
> > not just pre-rendered maps
> >
> > 3. Avoid OGC, he hates it. OGC standards suck.
> >
> > 4. Buy Manifold, he loves it. Everything else
> sucks.
> >
> > My take:
> >
> > 1. Good advice
> >
> > 2. Good advice
> >
> > 3. Bad advice. I think you should not constrain
> yourself one way or
> > the other with OGC stuff. Who knows, there
> might be some useful
> > nuggets there.
> >
> > 4. Who knows. He might be right. But it's your
> money so spend it
> > wisely, not based on who can pound out the
> most number of words
> > in any given email message.
> >
> > On Friday, January 24 2003 at 11:26:13(-0800)
> Dimitri Rotow wrote: >
>
> > > > > > A group of us in the UN Environment
> Programme (UNEP) are
> > reviewing options > > for developing a p2p
> geo-refereneced data
> > publication mechanism. > > > &

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