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Subject: RE: GISList: Re: GIS P2P * Market Research Question * & Flaming
Date:  01/27/2003 07:30:09 AM
From:  Graeme Brooke



Well articulated Jonathan.

I, too, am an infrequent participant to this list (although I read every
post), and in my humble opinion, the occasional flame does not detract from
a list such as this. Hell - if the Grime site was built on only favourable
responses, nothing would ever have happened.

I don't wish to be overly patriarchal but everyone has an axe to grind and
all of us need to make a dollar. Given all that, every now and then, we may
come across an obstacle that we can't surmount without help. In the GIS
space, one tool that we can use to help us is this List. If, in solving our
problem, respondents suggest a tool or course of action that is different to
the thinking of other "listees", that is the nature of the list. If
someone's passion is aroused, that is the nature of the list. If there is
disagreement on a certain topic, that is the nature of the list. If there is
agreement... well, you know what I'm saying.

This is a great list and we have a great industry. If personalities arise,
we should greet them with open arms. Everyone of us works at GIS and the
allied disciplines to make money. That is not a bad thing - that is a fact.
If someone "pushes" a certain package then and there are individuals that
believe that that package is good/works/is adequate/is not appropriate/sucks
then this is the ideal forum to vent those feelings.

I have a list of 3048 "sayings" that I use as signatures. More often than
not, the arbitrary signature that is presented is appropriate. This case is
no exception. See Quote 2052 below...

Ciao,
Graeme

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GRAEME BROOKE E-mail:gmb@vizmap.com.au
Batphone: +61(0)4 1965 9866 Phone/Fax: +61(0)7 5444 0011
PO Box 453, Mooloolaba, Queensland 4557, Australia
Speaking Professionally... http://www.vizmap.com.au
Speaking Personally... http://www.grime.net
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Quote 2052 of 3438:
Most people would rather die than think: in fact, they do so. --
Bertrand Russell
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-----Original Message-----
From: Stokes, Jonathan (J) [mailto:stokesj@bv.com]
Sent: Monday, 27 January 2003 7:07 PM
To: 'ajq3@spatialnetworks.com': gislist@geocomm.com
Subject: RE: GISList: Re: GIS P2P * Market Research Question * & Flaming


Anthony
I don't participate in GIS-L very often. But it would be a real shame if you
did leave the list because of the flaming. Without being patronising I find
your posts interesting - also you actually bother to contribute a lot rather
than just popping up to trash people. It's a bit of a sign of the times that
courtesy, manners and value for other people's opinions get thrown in the
rubbish bin.

Yes sometimes Dimitri might be a bit over zealous, but hell you all have a
delete key - use it if you don't want his opinions. It can be found in
several places on the keyboard - I'll happily supply diagrams if anyone
needs them.

Anyway gotta go as I have a presentation to prepare on developments in the
GIS software market in the last year to prepare. Hell I might even mention
Manifold :->

Cheers

Jon.

Jonathan Stokes
Consultant, Information Solutions Group
Black & Veatch Consulting
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-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Quartararo [mailto:ajq3@spatialnetworks.com]
Sent: 26 January 2003 01:30
To: gislist@geocomm.com
Subject: RE: GISList: Re: GIS P2P * Market Research
Question * & Flaming

Sitting here in this business center in New Delhi, it has
been painful and excruciatingly slow to read all these recent antagonisms.
At first, I was a bit envious I hadn't been able to join in, but as I read
them in order, I was pretty dismayed. Granted, I'm usually one of the
agitators, but a select few have sunk to new levels on this thread. When I
get back to the office I'll be disengaging from this list and unsubscribing.
Best to All,

Anthony


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