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| Subject: | Re: GISList: Manifold 5.x vs. ArcGIS 8.x |
| Date: |
01/31/2003 07:27:12 PM |
| From: |
Steven M. Robertson |
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I have a solution to the Manifold 5.x vs. ArcGIS 8.x war! Everyone pitch in
and buy me a copy and I'll review it for you! Its Friday!:)
----- Original Message -----
From: "PSTERLING" <PSTERLING@quinault.org>
To: "J Bee" <mapcmon@yahoo.com>: "Jamie Snow" <jamieb_snow@yahoo.ca>:
"Quantitative Decisions" <whuber@quantdec.com>: <gislist@geocomm.com>
Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 12:12 PM
Subject: RE: GISList: Manifold 5.x vs. ArcGIS 8.x
> Exactly right, JBee, and it is Flaming Friday, so let's have some fun and
not be so dang serious all the time.
>
> Paulster
> If you can't stand the heat, get the heck off the manifold!
>
> PS I'm sorry that the above statement causes some email services to
quarantine my message.
> I inserted "the heck" to separate the "get" from the "off" to see if that
was the trigger. Sometimes you just gotta laugh. Even GIS people.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: J Bee [mailto:mapcmon@yahoo.com]
> Sent: Friday, January 31, 2003 8:45 AM
> To: Jamie Snow: Quantitative Decisions: gislist@geocomm.com
> Subject: Re: GISList: Manifold 5.x vs. ArcGIS 8.x
>
>
> Jamie,
>
> I totally agree with you Jamie, and I thank you for
> your willingness to speak up. I belive your email
> spurred Bill Huber to write his posting which helped
> to expose the false hold that the Manifold's post
> (comparing ArcInfo with Manifold) contained.
>
> Following your intial response to the Manifold post,
> however, Dimitri responded to you, accusing you of
> "character assisination". But yet in this case, oh
> no, Dimitiri wasn't "flaming" you. After Bill's
> posting though, we see that your disclosure was
> actually very productive. Again I thank you for that.
>
> I - and everyone else - knows that this list is an
> excellent resource for solving many GIS questions.
> However, it is also important to remind folks that
> that freedom is speech is the reason we have such a
> resource. When Dimnitri snakes in wth constant sales
> references to his software, as if the world would not
> survive without out it, people are going to call him
> out and vent their frustrations. Cry babies can call
> it "flaming" and filter people out, but doesn't that
> just lead to an "I only want to hear what I only want
> to hear" attitude? While many of us may not be able
> to use big, obscure words from the English dictionary
> like Dimitri and Bill use, our voices will still not
> be squashed.
>
> Huber, towards the end of his posting stated how he is
> filtering out people who have sent recent posts which
> called out Dimitri. Yet he states further that, he
> loves Dimitri's ramblings (with an included smiley
> face), and won't filter him out. So, you can use the
> list to heap praise on folks like Dimitri, but ya
> can't send a post that disagrees? That's bull.
>
> If you want to filter people on this list, or drop off
> the list, just do it. Otherwise, it seems the list
> should promote the general exchange of all views -
> even those of people who are sick of reading blatant
> marketing spiels. I have never seen a rep from ESRI,
> Caliper, Golden Software, etc., get on this list and
> contantly refer people to their product. Yet Dimitri
> acts like his software was sent from heaven, and we
> are all fools for not using it. BULL!
>
> Anyway, I feel better now....
>
> God bless America, and god bless GIS-
>
> Bob (The Accused Flamer)
>
>
> --- Jamie Snow <jamieb_snow@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> > Bill's post below is exactly what I was taking from
> > the 'comparison' on Manifold's marketing site. I do
> > know the person who wrote the original comparison,
> > so
> > that is what prompted my post. It was not a flame
> > on
> > the person himself ... just a question of his
> > ability
> > to adequately compare many GIS applications, with
> > his
> > few years experience. Although anyone can compare
> > software, I thought that if a company is using this
> > comparison as a marketing blurb, it should be from a
> > more experienced user.
> >
> > Dmitri's statement of "Every truly experienced GIS
> > person reading this list understands it is a far
> > from
> > trivial matter to learn how to operate in detail any
> > one of these products, let alone to achieve a
> > working
> > mastery of three of them". I couldn't agree more.
> > That is why I was questioning how much weight a
> > comparison of products would ca
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