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Subject: Re: GISList: NPR, CNN, Iraq & the elusive "GIS"
Date:  04/06/2003 10:20:00 AM
From:  Michael Gould Carlson



Stephen, I don't see your point regarding serious students. How are they
disadvantaged? All TV is sensationalized (ask any cop, who will tell you that
most of their shift is paperwork, not chasing bad guys or love affairs with an
opposite sex partner). If an academic career has a choice to get
sensationalzed TV coverage, or not, I would think most all of them would
choose yes. Serious students know better, but if a program needs more average
students to keep alive, then why not accentuate the positive. I know of a
Geography dept which made a video for high school kids showing researchers
flying around in helicopters. I do not know any geographer who does that, but
it is certainly possible and therefore not a lie.

Mike Gould

Mensaje citado por Stephen Brown <thequantumfishe@chartermi.net>:

> Hi All. Stephen Brown here. It is certainly exciting when new interest
> is spawned as a result of some kind of publicity. However, I have to
> disregard any information that is "jumped on" by students only because of
> media hype and pop-culture, hollywood-based hullaballoo.
>
> Serious students are disadvantaged in this regard as I see it. Information
> about key technologies shouldn't be clouded or puffed up just because it is
> seen on TV.
>
> Warm regards,
> Stephen Brown
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Karen Morley" <kmorley@lizardtech.com>
> To: "'Anthony Quartararo '" <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com>:
> <gislist@geocomm.com>
> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 4:29 PM
> Subject: RE: GISList: NPR, CNN, Iraq & the elusive "GIS"
>
>
> > I don't usually weigh in on these types of threads but couldn't resist
> this
> > one.
> >
> > A recent big sensation on TV has been the forensic science shows, my
> mother
> > even hangs up on me to go watch CSI (I think that's what it's called). At
> > any rate, the shows consistently misrepresent the technology to the public
> > but interest increases as a result. I read an article that applications
> to
> > university programs in forensic sciences have gone up 200% as a result.
> >
> > Perhaps even if the technology is misrepresented the industry will see a
> > growth in interest as a result and an opportunity to truly educate people
> in
> > geospatial sciences.
> >
> > my $0.02...
> >
> > -Karen
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Anthony Quartararo
> > To: gislist@geocomm.com
> > Sent: 4/4/2003 6:26 AM
> > Subject: RE: GISList: NPR, CNN, Iraq & the elusive "GIS"
> >
> > Both good points and well taken. However, when I hear and see what
> > clueless
> > celebrity news anchors say and do while using these very powerful tools
> > of
> > persuasion (I'm not kidding, it's just like Monday Night Football - with
> > the
> > same intellectual capital), the ability to present an incredible array
> > of
> > spatial information to global audiences, all the time, over and over,
> > the
> > impact of a little white "lie" makes "How to Lie with Maps" seem almost
> > quaint and homey. We don't need to worry about official
> > misinformation
> > sanctioned as part of a military strategy, the media has that handled
> > all
> > too well. I'm not expecting the "beautiful people" at CNN to launch
> > into a
> > GIS 101 course each time they ramp up the Teledestructor, but it does
> > bother me that these fools are many people's first real exposure to the
> > power and application of the fruit of our collective efforts.
> >
> > I sometimes explain to people I meet that what I do (and what industry I
> > work in) is to make the guts of "Mapquest.com" for lots of different
> > industries, and they seem to get it right away. This is a 10 second
> > explanation that works just fine in social settings, because when I
> > launch
> > into the GIS 101 course, lots of glassy eyes abound. While I'm not
> > pretending to be an ambassador for the industry, every chance I get to
> > turn
> > someone on to "how do they do that....", I take advantage. The point
> > is, in
> > the rush and effort to become ingrained into everyday business/consumer
> > mainstream technology, are we (and we should be) prepared to hand over
> > control of the mainstream "interface" to non-industry professionals ?
> >
> > ajq
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Richard Hoskins [mailto:healthmaps@attbi.com

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