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Subject: Re: GISList: Interior e-gov tack irks GIS vendors (Geospatial One-Stopinitiative)
Date:  04/23/2003 12:15:00 PM
From:  Ron Lake



I don't understand this response. The OGC has defined interfaces (thus far
via HTTP - but SOAP, et al will come) and an encoding/transport (GML). GML
can be mapped to an RBDMS, to Shape, to ArcSDE etc. without problem. So I
would argue that OGC IS dealing with the issue raised. The solution in the
longer term is to stop using the proprietary formats altogether (use only
GML). In the shorter term GML is a public inter-GIS format that is
extensible and expressive enough to capture most if not ALL data expressed
in GIS/Image systems. The longer term solution (already part of GML) allows
for features to reference one another across a network (local area or wide
area) - so that objects (e.g. policing district) relative to other objects
(e.g. streets) - so hopefully we say good bye to conflation etc.

Cheers

Ron

Paul Ramsey wrote:

> Anthony Quartararo wrote:
> > Will OGC help me if I work in an environment that has various client
> > machines running ArcGIS, GeoMedia, AutoCAD Map, etc. etc. from a
> > server(s) connected to another RDBMS for stuff, and yet another RDMS
> > for imagery stuff, and so on and so on..that we find in a typical
> > office environment. These scenarios usually do not need to access
> > the WWW for anything related to GIS work, but still the need to
> > convert, transform and otherwise integrate various proprietary
> > formats happens every day. Is OGC going to solve this
> > "interoperability" challenge too ?
>
> I wish. :)
> But the Simple Features for SQL spec hasn't been touched in years,
> despite remaining grey areas and inconsistencies, the conformance suite
> is actually internally inconsistent, and OGC seems relentlessly
> determined to ignore the failures of its past. Ironically, ESRI has done
> more to standardize client/server access over the last couple years via
> its support of a spatially enabled OLEDB provider in the Arc8 family
> than OGC has.
> The OGC "vendor community" roundly ignored desktop client/server
> interoperability standards last time around, I doubt OGC wants another
> trip through that snake pit.
>
> --
> __
> /
> | Paul Ramsey
> | Refractions Research
> | Email: pramsey@refractions.net
> | Phone: (250) 885-0632
> _
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