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| Subject: | Re: GISList: Automatic data recording |
| Date: |
07/01/2003 05:50:01 PM |
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viktoras |
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Ooops. I didn't plan to get a big discussion on this. I might agree with
you, Dimitri, that in the business field sometimes it may be more
effcient to use "pre-built" software, etc.
But GIS is also used in activities that actualy are not neccessarily
business related e.g. science, education, non-profit, research and
development, hobbies.
And still there are many fields in business where considering very
specific tasks (re)making something "from a scratch" is the only
possible alternative.
Moreover
1) there always are (have to be) alternatives more or less suitable for
any given situation in business or non business sector and everybody is
free to make a decision or give a suggestion on it
2) suitability of certain alternative also depends on a knowledge
background and experience of a staff that is going to work with it.
Still I can not keep myself from making some comments to finish with
this discussion
>Nonsense. If anything, CGI scripting is usually, but not always, slower
>than .asp.
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- cgi-scripting/server-side-services which also includes PHP, Java
server, mod_perl, etc... There are many alternatives to ASP. Just look
at an explosion of PHP empowered sites including www.geocomm.com !
Should this fact be ignored by the GIS community ? Why should we stick
with far not the most efficient technologies just because of business
ideology.
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>More nonsense. Windows from 2000 onwards and *especially* recent releases
>like Windows Server 2003 are *extremely* efficient, reliable and highly
>secure. Yes, it is true that there are more security reports for Windows
>
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>than for Linux, but that's because more people use Windows, by a factor of
>100 to 1. For web sites, many more commercial users utilize Windows and
>Windows has vastly more web applications running under it.
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Well, I mean Unix-like systems which of course includes Linux. Windows
and Unix in networked environments behave in totaly diferent ways. And
Unix/Linux still holds it's position. How much do you think B. Gates
recently paid for some sources of Unix and why ?
You might be also interested in
http://www.securityspace.com/sprobe/doprobe.html?URL=www.hotmail.com
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>Suggesting that it is economically
>sensible to program one's own application solutions using "free" software
>(when "paid" software can do the job without programming) only makes
>economic sense if the programmer's time is nearly worthless [which raises
>the important managerial question... who in their right minds thinks it is a
>wise management practise to populate an organization with nearly worthless
>programmers?].
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Don't forget programmers also want to have their business prospering
:-). And there are many programmers around.
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>For that matter, most organizations that ascribe some reasonable economic
>value to their activities are smart enough to elminate grossly obsolete
>hardware because it costs them too much. It is expensive to deal with the
>legacy issues of supporting such obsolete hardware within a modern software
>environment. Well managed organizations pay close attention to Total Cost
>of Ownership (TCO) and don't fall into such amateurish traps, so they don't
>have PIIs lying about.
>
>I agree, of course, that if you are a happy amateur you may well thrive with
>a PII for your hobby purposes, and more power to you. But, that's not what
>most people in the mainstream seek nor is it really germane to the question
>that launched this thread. Suggesting that the original poster utilize a
>PII with Linux and Apache is a bit like suggesting he should weave his own
>carpet to keep his feet warm because carpet weaving is such a relaxing
>hobby... it's not on point.
>Well, the modern system will have a few gigabytes of RAM because RAM is now
>effectively free for modern organizational tasks, such as running map
>servers, and it will run sophisticated Windows software that you simply
>could not run on a PII. So, it is not really an apples to apples
>comparison.
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O.K. PII was just a comparison on efficiency (which IS important). And
still, these old PII 's quite succesfuly find their "new lives" in roles
of node computers in parralel and distributed computing systems. You
know Human Genome Project, Light & Magick studio, there are plenty of
GIS projects, etc...
And (sigh...) YES I REALY am a suporter of Linux/Apache, OSS, etc.,
because thanks to them I have my own business running well.
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Cheers
Viktoras
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