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| Subject: | RE: GISList: Automatic data recording |
| Date: |
07/02/2003 11:10:01 AM |
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Ross, Gregory K. |
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Read the whole article to get the truth....
"Bill Moffitt, Solaris group marketing manager for Sun, said he's not
surprised the E4500 servers were more than Orbitz wanted to pay. He said the
systems probably delivered more horsepower than the travel agency needed.
While unavailable last fall, Sun now sells the Sun Fire V60 and V65 servers
that can run either Solaris- or Linux-on-Intel.
"They're going to do fine (with Linux) and they're going to get low cost.
But Solaris would have delivered better total cost of ownership through the
life of the machine," he asserted. Orbitz had no TCO numbers for Linux vs.
Solaris."
"The company, however, still uses a big Sun Solaris server to run the
Oracle9i database that stores its customers' reservations. The Sun machine
makes sense for this purpose because of the need for a single server with a
lot of processing power and a lot of RAM."
"Privately held Chicago-based Orbitz uses more than 750 Linux-on-Intel
Compaq computers in its data center to download fares, service search
requests and run the company's booking engine."
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The Linux on Compaq machines simply serve as the interface and route the
real work to the Sun Solaris server with an Oracle database. The only true
competition for Windows based Web serving. Linux still has a ways to go, but
give it a few more years as the market changes....
Gregory Ross
Biological Scientist
University of Florida / IFAS
Florida Medical Entomology Lab
Vero Beach, FL
-----Original Message-----
From: Carl Reed [mailto:creediii@mindspring.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 11:49 AM
To: dar@manifold.net: gislist@geocomm.com
Subject: Re: GISList: Automatic data recording
For those of you who do not think LINUX can handle prime time, super high
transaction web implementations:
WAGNER'S WEBLOG
Online travel agency Orbitz is more committed than ever to Linux, using more
than 750 Linux on Intel Compaq servers to power its Web site. Cost-cutting
was a primary motivation for switching from Sun to Linux. The company
handles support in-house, and goes to the Linux community for answers to
problems it can't solve itself.
http://update.internetweek.com/cgi-bin4/DM/y/eMge0B1IwH0V30B3LL0AD
Cheers
Carl
----- Original Message -----
From: Dimitri Rotow <dar@manifold.net>
To: <gislist@geocomm.com>
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 11:33 PM
Subject: RE: GISList: Automatic data recording
>
> I don't mean to jump into a hornet's nest (ah... well, why not...) but
> it
is
> very important to debate the assumptions people have behind holy cows, be
> they received wisdom regarding php or asp. The main issue, to me, is not
> whether you or I would like to use php or asp for our personal
> programming but rather which is the best match to the business
> situation surrounding
any
> given customer requirement. I don't know about you, but after over 30
> years of programming I don't really care which language or environment
> I
use
> anymore so much as what I do with it. They all have plusses and
> minuses.
But
> unfortunately for our personal sense of taste, the unrelenting
particularity
> of profit and loss does not give many organizations or individuals the
> ability to ignore the cold economics of a given situation, and the
> cold economics tend to strongly favor Microsoft for most commercial or
> organizational users. That is why an old UNIX guy like me finds the
> very rich ecological niche of Microsoft so compelling.
>
> > Take a look at
> > http://www.perlmonth.com/perlmonth/issue4/benchmarks.html
> > If you don't like those benchmarks, maybe you can show us yours.
> >
>
> More accurately, Microsoft's. Google the Microsoft site and you'll
> find plenty of information on .asp performance.
>
> > This is a non-sequitor. The number of different reported flaws has
> > nothing to do with the number of instances running.
> >
>
> ??? I don't understand why you would write that. It has a lot to do
> with the number of instances running and with the number of people
> (hundreds of millions, if not over a billion) using it. Quite
> obviously, no one
notices
> defects in things that go unused, and no one bothers to attack things
> that are not used. Those things that are widely used, it seems to me,
> would get much more attention.
>
> > Go to www.netcraft.com - type in the website of your choice. I
> > picked these. I think I've mentioned before that you guys use Apache
> > on Unix for your front page. Now I notice that you also use PHP.
> > Good stuff, eh?
>
> Well, that would be a good argument if the Manifold pages were not so
> utterly trivial and simplistic (in their webstuff structure if not
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