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| Subject: | RE: GISList: Isn't she supposed to be an environmental |
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07/22/2003 03:40:01 PM |
| From: |
Bernard.J.King .. us.mwhglobal.com |
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"California (and by proxy, its residents) is strange."
I resemble that remark! :-D
.....and yes, this list has been slow lately --- lots of users on vacation?
Bernard J. King
Senior Designer
CADD/GIS Dept.
MWH
Portland, OR
503.220.5430 (direct)
503.226.7377 (office)
503.226.0023 (fax)
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| | "Anthony |
| | Quartararo" |
| | <ajq3@spatialnetw|
| | orks.com> |
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| | 07/22/2003 01:31 |
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| To: <gislist@geocomm.com> |
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| Subject: RE: GISList: Isn't she supposed to be an environmental |
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This is fairly tangential, not terribly relevant to the industry, but hey,
since this list is a ghost town lately, why not.
1) California (and by proxy, its residents) is strange.
Cheers.
Anthony
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harsh Prakash [mailto:hvp@regiononepdc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 1:37 PM
> To: gislist@geocomm.com
> Subject: Re: GISList: Isn't she supposed to be an environmental
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> A "reasonable expectation of privacy" is an excepted argument
> (it is used esp. w.r.t. fourth amendment cases, and
> sometimes, such cases have been triggered even when the
> observation vehicle is at a position where it has the right to be).
>
> Very crudely put, if a person completely owns a closed
> dwelling and takes adequate precautions to keep her bedroom
> private, then she creates a "reasonable expectation of
> privacy" that the "society is willing to accept". In such a
> case, if someone uses hi-tech equipments to penetrate and
> scan the inside details of her bedroom (certainly not the
> case here) without explicit permission or authorization, then
> he takes away something from her "bundle of rights" (note
> that if a person buys an open house, say, in the center of
> Times Square, NYC, then he may not claim a "reasonable
> expectation of privacy" for obvious reasons).
>
> > Not an issue, because if it is viewable from a public space
> it is, by
> > definition, not private.
> ...Interesting argument. But there may be more to it- for
> one, we cannot be expected to completely cover our houses.
> The key here may be just how much private details do the
> photographs reveal, details that the property owner took
> pains to hide- sensitive details that were later openly distributed.
>
> Since the focus was on the coastline, the photographer has
> little to worry about and the case may just get thrown out.
>
> Hopefully, map-making would enjoy a "good-intent" protection.
> However, not knowing all the facts and arguments, I certainly
> can NOT claim how well the arguments apply to such cases.
> These are just some general questions to inform our discussion.
>
> Harsh
> PS: Then again, just how relevant are the intimate details of
> someone's house, if there were any, to a coastline monitoring
> project? And what if, say a fishing business along the coast,
> claims that its trade-secrets get revealed by such
> photographs, photographs which can then be used by competing
> businesses?
>
> PPS: "...expectation of privacy is either inherently
> reasonable or it is inherently unreasonable" (O' Conner).
>
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