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Subject: RE: GISList: advice needed: GPS for teaching GIS
Date:  08/20/2003 05:30:01 PM
From:  Neil Havermale



I would suggest that you contact either or both Magellan and/or Garmin and
check if the have an educational deal on a 12-pack of receivers or at least
for some software. Both companies have very excellent handhelds with WAAS
differential correction and therefore accuracy of a meter or two under good
conditions.

As for the heads-up feet-down map making I encourage you to take a look at a
product named Oziexplorer. It is very low cost per seat and actually does
the outside GIS data collection very well via either Garmin or Magellan.
Notable to Oziexplorer is its built-in features that can place local
background maps into most Magellans and Garmins thereby eliminating the need
for a PDA and ArcPad expense. That is you construct the ground truthing
"mission" in say MapInfo or ArcView with legacy data, export it over to
Oziexplorer, and from Ozieexlorer to either the Garmin or Magellan handheld
GPS. Sounds like too many steps but actually quite easy "once you master
the issues of projection" as related to so called "open systems" download
and upload. If you can send student out to the big GIS world with this
mastery of "projections" and "datum's" you will have done all of us a great
service!

http://www.oziexplorer.com

MidNight Mapper
Aka neil

And if you are interested in low-cost high-power spatial analysis with
extensive tutorials as a "lab" deal take a look at:

http://www.redhensystems.com/products/mapcalc/default.asp?sm=27

And some of the student materials and analysis examples via:

http://www.innovativegis.com/basis/Senarios/Default.html

-----Original Message-----
From: RICK GRAY [mailto:RGRAY@ridgetownc.uoguelph.ca]
Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2003 6:56 AM
To: gislist@geocomm.com
Subject: RE: GISList: advice needed: GPS for teaching GIS


Great thought. I have considered it and suspect that time constraints (i.e.
2 hr lab slot) would not give students the time to go to a location and
actually accomplish something then return to the school in time for their
next class. However, we are located on an agriculture research campus.
Perhaps I will send out an email to all the research faculty to see if
anyone needs GPS readings of their plots.

>>> "Gillespie,Ian [Burlington]" <Ian.Gillespie@ec.gc.ca> 8/20/2003
4:35:00 PM >>>
Hi Rick,

Just as an aside, have you thought about approaching companies, local
governments (Fed/Prov/Muni), non gov't agencies (ie. Conservation
Authorities) or other academic deptartments using this as a collaborative
opportunity to collect data?
Market this as a win-win so you can have students learn how to use current
technologies utilizing existing GPS tools/resources/standards while
simultaneously collecting data for an agency that was going to be doing this
anyway?

Just a thought.

______________________________________
Ian Gillespie
Geographic Information Officer
Integrated Environmental Applications Branch
Knowledge Integration Directorate
Environment Canada
867 Lakeshore Road
Burlington, Ontario
L7R 4A6
Ph: (905) 336-4527/Fax: (905) 336-4906/Cell: (289) 259-3244
Email: Ian.Gillespie@ec.gc.ca
www.ec.gc.ca/cise



-----Original Message-----
From: RICK GRAY [mailto:RGRAY@ridgetownc.uoguelph.ca]
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:09 PM
To: gislist@geocomm.com
Subject: GISList: advice needed: GPS for teaching GIS


Hello listers,

For a brand new course I will have to teach this fall, we have 13 weeks to
teach students how to collect data and do some GIS analysis. These are 1st
semester students in a community college Environmental Management Diploma.
They are not GIS students. The first few weeks will be teaching them survey
techniques using the level and total station. I also want them to collect
data using GPS. I am looking for advice on what kind of GPS unit would work
best.

I would like something that is no worse than about 5m accuracy, of course
the more accurate the better.

I need about 6-10 units (class size is currently 38) and I believe (but
don't know for sure, yet) that I may have about $500-1000 CDN to spend per
unit.

I will be using ArcView 3.3. I need something that will be fairly
straight-forward to use. Rugged would be nice. (a handheld with arcpad and
GPS antenna would be the most fun, but I suspect outside of my
budget)

I am turning to the list because I have contacted 3 different suppliers, 2
of which have said they will send me information and prices, but after a
week of waiting I have heard nothing. And school starts in 2 weeks.

If you have done such a course, or are a supplier interested in making a
sale, or just have some friendly advice, I'd love to hear from you.

Thanks,
rg

Rick Gray
GIS Specialist, Ontario Weather Network
http://www.ownweb.ca
Ridgetown College, University of Guelph http://www.ridgetowncollege.com/

Tel. 519-674-1554
E-mail: rgra

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