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Subject: RE: GISList: Cartography and Data Viewer
Date:  08/25/2003 08:35:00 PM
From:  Neil Havermale



Dimitri -

I am sorry that the competitive delivery of GIS and its base information via
the net and software other than buy yours is upsetting to you personally.
And if the OGC and other OGC-like efforts are threatening to your company's
future, then that is the way it is. Times change Old Boy!

As for internet delivery by connection to data and related data
processing/presentation services that will likely eclipse your products,
well I too remember (faintly) the 300 baud modems of last decade. Today I
enjoy broadband and look to someday have essentially "free" not just
megabytes but terabytes pipes.

My bet is the "public" maps that construct the base of most "personal"
spatial analysis is best served from a library, either private and/or
public. The emerging benefits from up-to-date mapping depositories/services,
agreed, has had some rough moments due to mainly designed incompatibility
due to GIS product competitions. I believe that is mostly behind us - even
you endorse the SHP format with all its warts and gaps? Certainly you can
buy a book or two, particularly new "best sellers", but the archive of the
library remains part and parcel of civilization.

And lastly, I believe you are misdirecting many on this list as to motives
of our National government as may regard something that has not even
happened yet. Viruses? Many used to get stuck in the mud back in Model T
days too but now not only do we have road improvements but in-car navigation
as well! Leave your particular paranoia issues and psychotic FUD episodes
against the "more openness" interests off the list. If anything, you too
have been bitten by the B Gates Vampire and now you too lust for the blood
of endless upgrades?

And better but still prototypical solution is working its way around to
assisting many of us and mapping newbie's with no-cost solutions and access
to up-to-date baseline information....

http://www.geodata.gov .... Your tax $$$ at work.

And if you follow this site you will know it just gets better and better
every week.... Things change , get used to it!

neil

-----Original Message-----
From: Dimitri Rotow [mailto:dar@manifold.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 10:21 AM
To: gislist@geocomm.com
Subject: RE: GISList: Cartography and Data Viewer

......

The idea of web services that just give you only that part of the data you
"need" is just another webstacle to keep you from having access to *all* the
data you might want. Don't buy into that, or the next thing you know you
won't have access to all the data when you need it.

Cheers,

Dimitri



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