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Subject: RE: [gislist] Re: certification (?)
Date:  10/22/2003 01:20:01 PM
From:  Anthony Quartararo



URISA just graduated their first class of certified GIS folks. As far as
anyone requiring it, probably no one at this point does, and my guess is
probably never will require it. However, just like the Project Management
Institute's PMP Certification (Project Management Professional), it is
probable that some organizations, perhaps Governments, may give preference
to a candidate who has a GIS Professional certification, and may even
articulate this preference in job descriptions, at some point. I think
the commercial sectors are even more remote in actually requiring this
certification. While URISA has done a tremendous amount of work in getting
traction on this, I think that the pace of GIS technology changes, and it's
permeation throughout industries (beyond first adopters), will make it
exceedingly difficult for the guardians of the certification criteria to
keep up. Certification criteria general become criteria after a certain
critical mass of people have experience, and some reasonable time has lapsed
to demonstrate the longevity of the skills/experience, etc. This is
contrary to "bleeding-edge" technology adoptions and those customers and GIS
professionals who consume this leading edge technology with abandon. It
would be hard to require certification in skills/experiences that are less
than 6 months old, for example. So, I think that the latter is true in your
question, but this still has considerable value, given the worldwide labor
pool, and the fact that not all PhD's/MSc's are created equal...

Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:58 PM
To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
Subject: RE: [gislist] Re: certification (?)

What is the actual status of this certification. Is it required to actually
work in the field much like an RN or a licensed civil engineer, or is it
just a nice certification that tell everyone the holder has proven skills?

Mike Schnobrich

-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of David Brubacher
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 9:00 AM
To: sborovska@tompkins-co.org: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: RE: [gislist] Re: certification (?)


I will leave the URISA response to others, however, the Association of
Ontario Land Surveyors www.aols.org has extended its profession to include
Geographic Information Managers.

Upon application and articles, a successful candidate would actually carry a
professional designation (O.L.S. O.L.I.P.) as opposed to a certificate.
Under NAFTA and GATT this professional designation theoretically allows the
holder to work in foreign jurisdictions much more easily than a certificate
would.

David M. Brubacher O.L.S. O.L.I.P.


-----Original Message-----
From: Svetla Borovska-Frank [mailto:sborovska@tompkins-co.org]
Sent: October 20, 2003 9:50 AM
To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: [gislist] Re: certification (?)

I am wondering what your thoughts are regarding the Urban and Regional
Information Systems Association (URISA) certification?

Also, wondering how people can be held back professionally because
GIS was not considered "a profession"?

SB
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