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| Subject: | RE: [gislist] Re: certification (?) |
| Date: |
10/22/2003 01:25:00 PM |
| From: |
David Brubacher |
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Here in Ontario, some job postings and RFPs have required either the
applicant to be a GIM (i.e. certified OLS OLIP) or have GIM(s) involved
in the project. This is entirely due to our public awareness efforts.
David M. Brubacher O.L.S. O.L.I.P.
-----Original Message-----
From: Anthony Quartararo [mailto:ajq3@spatialnetworks.com]=20
Sent: October 22, 2003 2:15 PM
To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
Subject: RE: [gislist] Re: certification (?)
URISA just graduated their first class of certified GIS folks. As far
as anyone requiring it, probably no one at this point does, and my guess
is probably never will require it. However, just like the Project
Management Institute's PMP Certification (Project Management
Professional), it is probable that some organizations, perhaps
Governments, may give preference to a candidate who has a GIS
Professional certification, and may even
articulate this preference in job descriptions, at some point. I
think
the commercial sectors are even more remote in actually requiring this
certification. While URISA has done a tremendous amount of work in
getting traction on this, I think that the pace of GIS technology
changes, and it's permeation throughout industries (beyond first
adopters), will make it exceedingly difficult for the guardians of the
certification criteria to keep up. Certification criteria general
become criteria after a certain critical mass of people have experience,
and some reasonable time has lapsed to demonstrate the longevity of the
skills/experience, etc. This is contrary to "bleeding-edge" technology
adoptions and those customers and GIS professionals who consume this
leading edge technology with abandon. It would be hard to require
certification in skills/experiences that are less than 6 months old, for
example. So, I think that the latter is true in your question, but this
still has considerable value, given the worldwide labor pool, and the
fact that not all PhD's/MSc's are created equal...
Anthony
-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Mike
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 1:58 PM
To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
Subject: RE: [gislist] Re: certification (?)
What is the actual status of this certification. Is it required to
actually work in the field much like an RN or a licensed civil engineer,
or is it just a nice certification that tell everyone the holder has
proven skills?
Mike Schnobrich
-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of David Brubacher
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 9:00 AM
To: sborovska@tompkins-co.org: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: RE: [gislist] Re: certification (?)
I will leave the URISA response to others, however, the Association of
Ontario Land Surveyors www.aols.org has extended its profession to
include Geographic Information Managers.
Upon application and articles, a successful candidate would actually
carry a professional designation (O.L.S. O.L.I.P.) as opposed to a
certificate.
Under NAFTA and GATT this professional designation theoretically allows
the holder to work in foreign jurisdictions much more easily than a
certificate would.
David M. Brubacher O.L.S. O.L.I.P.
-----Original Message-----
From: Svetla Borovska-Frank [mailto:sborovska@tompkins-co.org]
Sent: October 20, 2003 9:50 AM
To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: [gislist] Re: certification (?)=20
I am wondering what your thoughts are regarding the Urban and Regional
Information Systems Association (URISA) certification? =20
Also, wondering how people can be held back professionally because
GIS was not considered "a profession"? =20
SB
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