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| Subject: | RE: [gislist] Seeking Opinions on Lizardtech's MrSID |
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11/06/2003 11:10:01 PM |
| From: |
Clive Poole |
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> Why is ECW the only choice? Users can be the judge and are the best ones to do so. However on this point it is clear that users haven't noticed our policy statement available from our web site in relation to ECW and JPEG200. ECW is scheduled to be published in the next major release of our SDKs and with that we will provide SDKs that support JPEG2000. Our message has been drowned in the unfortunate disagreement over a compression format. The company can stand on its record since inception of supporting open image formats. The standard .ERS format for instance is a simple BIL file. ECW was developed as the platform for a our tool for integrating Imagery with enterprise geospatial databases. In other words we sell a superb image integration tool called Image Web Server that has solved the challenge of being able to manage and handle even terabytes of image data archives. We don't and never have sold compression. Our tools add extra value and that is our differentiator. JPEG2000 will simply be another challenge to incorporate. We will take our many developer years of experience with the integration issue of imagery and consolidate that. It is probably worth just capturing a few lines from our pdf's to explain our policy for the next round of SDKs:
* Full source code (ECW)so you can port the ECW SDK to new platforms as desired * Full JPEG2000 read/write (in addition to ECW read/write capabilities)
> Why not JPEG200 (JP2)
As above we agree. However if you are looking at integration issues in a web environment some will come to see that ECW within an Image Web Server environment provides (and will continue to do so for some time) the most cost effective and rapid deployment option for Enterprise Image integration with other geospatial databases.
Cheers Clive Clive Poole Regional Manager Earth Resource Mapping - Asia Pacific Level 2, 87 Colin St West Perth, WA 6005
Phone 618 9388 2900 Fax 618 9388 2901 Mob 0409584892 Email clive.poole@ermapper.com.au www.EarthEtc.com www.ermapper.com
-----Original Message----- From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com]On Behalf Of Sonny Parafina Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 8:27 AM To: dar@manifold.net: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com Subject: RE: [gislist] Seeking Opinions on Lizardtech's MrSID
Why is ECW the only choice? Wouldn't moving to another vendor implementation of wavelet compression put users at risk again?
Why not JPEG200 (JP2), which is based on an ISO standard? Leica/Erdas is supporting JP2 and Mapping Science has put out GeoJP2.
The geospatial JP2 page is hosted at http://www.remotesensing.org/jpeg2000/
As for free and low cost tools, there are links on the page, including support for it in Frank Warmerdam's GDAL. Kudos to Frank for yet another contribution to the geospatial community.
Regards,
sonny
-----Original Message----- From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com]On Behalf Of Dimitri Rotow Sent: Thursday, November 06, 2003 5:26 PM To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com Subject: RE: [gislist] Seeking Opinions on Lizardtech's MrSID
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It's clear that many users of MrSID now realize that not only is the format held hostage by its new owners, they as users are being held hostage as well. There is an easy solution for all this: switch to ECW. It's a good format as I can attest from personal experience.
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Early next year I expect we will participate in an "Image Rescue" campaign now being informally discussed within the public and private GIS community to rescue images trapped in MrSID format and to convert them to open ECW format. Part of Image Rescue will be a set of free and open tools that will enable mass conversion of images from MrSID format into ECW format. ERMapper has a very confident and open licensing agreement for their ECW SDK and very widespread support within the independent software vendor community. Clearly, ECW is a far more "open" format than MrSID.
I could be wrong about this, but my guess is that if people have very low cost or free tools for achieving image compression that is superior to MrSID in all ways, that if they have free tools to easily rescue images now trapped in MrSID format and if they have an open ECW standard supported with a wide array of development tools from many different vendors, well,... who in their right mind would voluntarily continue wearing a sack over their head and manacles on their arms and legs and a financial drain on their budget by using MrSID?
Cheers,
Dimitri
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