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| Subject: | RE: [gislist] Do GIS Professionals Have A "Professional Association?" |
| Date: |
01/08/2004 10:55:01 AM |
| From: |
Michael Gould |
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we work hard over the weekend. :-)
At 17:38 08/01/2004, Bill Medina wrote:
>How do you guys have so much time to deliberate on these issues?
>
>Bill,
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com
>[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com]On Behalf Of Anthony=
Quartararo
>Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 11:14 AM
>To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
>Subject: RE: [gislist] Do GIS Professionals Have A "Professional
>Association?"
>
> Exactly. All the more reasons we do not need GISC.
>
>"Certification provides "proof" on paper that you have met certain
>standards. The points system that URISA employs to determine your
>eligibility is a valid tool - similar to marks in school. "
>
>And we all know how the US school systems are failing miserably, so I am=
not
>sure getting good marks in this context is a valid measurement. There's a
>high probability that 50%+ of College/Pro athletes got sufficiently
>acceptable marks in school to graduate, but who's kidding who ? :-)
>
>"Grandfathering merely expedites the process for those who have been doing
>GIS work for eons with no formal recognition."
>
>So, even if someone does work and skates by for eons, and is grandfathered
>in, that person is given the same recognition on paper as someone who may=
be
>universally regarding as the best in the industry, simply because they were
>around when ArcInfo v1.0 came out ? That's a double smack in the face:=
first
>it's bad for the industry because it is anti-Darwinian, and two, it dilutes
>the value of the Certification to those who may truly be "worthy".
>
>" There really is no other way, outside of an unwieldy and potentially
>unfair examination process. Unfair for the reasons many have discussed -=
GIS
>is just too large and disparate. "
>
>This is a circular argument. As if, we want some universally acceptable
>standard of measurement of professionalism and technical competence in our
>industry, but the truly meaningful way to do it is just too hard [unfair ?
>], because our industry is just to large and diverse, so let's settle for
>something that gets people stirred up, but will have no long-lasting
>positive impacts on the industry as a whole. If our industry is so large
>and disparate, doesn't that beg the question of the credibility of a
>Certification in the first place ? How granular can you get? To be truly
>meaningful, wouldn't we have to have a GIS Certificate issued for someone
>that was not grandfathered, has an undergraduate or equivalent degree, 3
>years working experience in the field of mobile mapping using handheld GPS
>receivers with an accuracy of 3-5m in remote, non-urban environments during
>all seasonal conditions, capable of executing said GIS techniques
>internationally, who can also configure mobile communications equipment in=
a
>wireless environment, has achieved 30 "credits" toward another granular
>Certification in the hopes of edging out the next person for $1 more hour
>for a full-time temporary position on a project that has not yet been fully
>funded, but will probably happen next fiscal year....
>
>I'll see your two cents and raise you a nickel....
>
>Regards,
>
>Anthony
>
>
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Michael Gould
Dept. Information Systems
(Lenguajes y Sistemas Inform=E1ticos)
Universitat Jaume I
E-12071 Castell=F3n, Spain
<mailto:gould@lsi.uji.es>
GIM'04 <http://gim04.unizar.es>
Postgraduate summer course Castell=F3n <http://graficos.uji.es>
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