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| Subject: | RE: [gislist] Just one GIS publication? |
| Date: |
01/08/2004 05:45:01 PM |
| From: |
Quantitative Decisions |
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At 10:33 AM 1/8/2004 -0800, Dimitri Rotow wrote:
>I have no idea how SpatialNews operates these days, which is why I did not
>mention it. In the past, SpatialNews did not tell its subscribers that the
>so-called "newsfeed" was not an impartial report of GIS industry news but
>was, in fact, a 100% paid advertising service. ...
>
>As a matter of ethics, the delivery of paid advertising masquerading as
>journalism is denounced as a dishonest practise by all journalistic
>organizations.
...
> > ... I really don't appreciate
> > your indirect slam of our on-line publication. If such postings continue,
> > I'll consider blocking or moderating your postings from the list.
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> > T.C. Herman
> > Executive Vice President/Managing Editor
> > ThinkBurst Media, Inc.
...
> > www.geocomm.com
Well, well, well. So much for the GISList being an open and impartial
public forum. It looks like when Glenn Letham departed, much more went
with him than we knew... I sincerely hope you're doing well, Glenn.
If anyone would be interested in creating a true public GIS forum--one that
is not the private holding of an organization apparently intending to use
it for its own ends, but one that is instead thoroughly dedicated to the
good of the community--then please write me with an expression of
interest. (Please don't reply only to GISList, because we cannot trust
that your reply will make it through uncensored--excuse me,
un-"moderated".) I have the resources and capabilities to make this happen
if there is enough interest in it.
Of course, if you're happy with the wider implications of Herman's threat,
feel free to tell me that, instead. I gratefully appreciate all reasoned
points of view, whether or not they support mine (or my business).
After this message is posted I suspect my ability to communicate through
this channel will become greatly diminished :-), so watch the usual
places--GIS Monitor, Directionsmag.com, and other lists (such as MapInfo-L
and the independent ArcView list)--for further information.
--Bill Huber
Quantitative Decisions
PS Something like this happened before in a similar context, when people
lost faith in the independence of the ESRI-maintained lists. For a review
of the issues, check out the exchange of letters from four years ago (in
reverse chronological order):
http://www.directionsmag.com/letters.asp?letter_id=27 (Ted Florence, Avenza)
http://www.directionsmag.com/letters.asp?letter_id=25 (Jeff Cole, Blue
Marble Geographics)
http://www.directionsmag.com/letters.asp?letter_id=24 (Bill Thoen, MapInfo-L)
http://www.directionsmag.com/letters.asp?letter_id=23 (Myself)
http://www.directionsmag.com/letters.asp?letter_id=22 (Barry Zickuhr,
ESRI-Olympia, writing on his own behalf)
http://www.directionsmag.com/news.asp?news_id=44 (The article that started
it all)
One result of this exchange was the directory of GIS-related internet
discussion lists still maintained by Directions Magazine at
http://lists.directionsmag.com/discussion/ . Many of these
lists--including GISList itself, I believe--were created as a direct
response to the issues raised.
(At the time these articles and letters appeared, I had no relationship
with Directions Magazine. Since then I have served as an editorial
consultant and as an interim editor for a year before Directions landed Joe
Francica as its current editor. I am presently a minor
stockholder. Directions, which does provide independent journalism,
competes with SpatialNews for advertisers and readers. My offer to create
a GIS discussion list is completely unrelated to any connections I may have
with Directions or its employees or stockholders and has not been presented
to or discussed with anybody related to Directions.)
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