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| Subject: | RE: [gislist] ArcGIS 9 - recommend postponing installation |
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06/01/2004 01:00:01 PM |
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Michael Gould |
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At 18:38 01/06/2004, Anthony Quartararo wrote: >Ok sure, I'll just phone up all my clients, and ask them to scrap their >hundreds of thousands of dollars in infrastructure centered around ESRI >technology, not to mention business processes, people and an untold number >of partners, so I can have one less headache each day. Errrrrrr, survey >says......try again.
try unplugging a piece at a time. migrate the data in parallel to Deegree= =20 or Geoserver or MapGuide and then without telling anyone pull the plug on=20 the arcIMS. then the same with the visualization side (Jump etc.).....
your hardware is heterogeneous, now try the software... plug-n-play.
keeping all the eggs in one software basket leaves control in the hands of= =20 the software vendor.
M Gould
> _____ > >From: J Bee [mailto:mapcmon@yahoo.com] >Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:44 AM >To: Anthony Quartararo: gislist@lists.geocomm.com >Subject: Re: [gislist] ArcGIS 9 - recommend postponing installation > > >"You would also think ESRI could come up with a method that would >truly "upgrade" previous installations without having to completely >uninstall the older version first [in the interest of saving a significant >amount of time...]." > >On the flip side, you would also like to think thaqt users such as yourself >would realize that there are far better alternatives, with more advanced >technologies, easier to use, and much, much cheaper in cost. I am still >bewildered as to why folks invest in ESRI, other than an excuse like= "that's >what everyone else seems to use" > >Well, before the next person jusmps off a cliff, consider Maptitude ($495 >which includes a geocoder) or TransCad (base TransCAD is $2,995 and far >exceed the power of Arc whateverer...). Heck, even at the risk of waking >the dead, there's Manifold at something like $300 (which does not include a >geocoder). Not to mention several other GIS packages. > >Comparing ESRI to Microsoft is a misnomer. Very few options for PC >operating systems. Quite a few options for GIS software. > >I dunno, maybe folks just enjoy standing over a toilet, watching their= money >go down the drain... > >Bob > > >Anthony Quartararo <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com> wrote: > >Dear Listers, > >Have had ArcGIS 9 (ArcInfo) installed for less than a week. After a rather >circuitous path to getting it actually installed, and a quick call the ESRI >tech support, I would have to say at this point that I would strongly >recommend postponing installation or upgrading until ESRI cleans things up >and re-issues the CDs. They have pulled a "Microsoft" on this one: the tech >at ESRI confirmed a known issue with installation on a single license >dongle [the license administrate does not record the machine name and so a >secondary step of actually typing it in is required]. But, after having >tried to work with a dataset that worked just fine under 8.x, it has= crashed >multiple times so far with 9.x with a fairly major application error. I >really am tired of paying a king's ransom for the privilege of advanced >beta-testing. I will be uninstalling 9.x, and reinstalling 8.x to keep >working. You would also think ESRI could come up with a method that would >truly "upgrade" previous installations without having to completely >uninstall the older version first [in the interest of saving a significant >amount of time...]. > >...not a happy camper.. > >Anthony > >_______________________________________________ >gislist mailing list >gislist@lists.geocomm.com >http://lists.geocomm.com/mailman/listinfo/gislist > >_________________________________ >This list is brought to you by >The GeoCommunity >http://www.geocomm.com/ > >Get Access to the latest GIS & Geospatial Industry RFPs and bids >http://www.geobids.com > > > > _____ > >Do you Yahoo!? >Friends. Fun. Try the all-new Yahoo! <http://messenger.yahoo.com/> >Messenger > >_______________________________________________ >gislist mailing list >gislist@lists.geocomm.com >http://lists.geocomm.com/mailman/listinfo/gislist > >_________________________________ >This list is brought to you by >The GeoCommunity >http://www.geocomm.com/ > >Get Access to the latest GIS & Geospatial Industry RFPs and bids >http://www.geobids.com
----------------------- Michael Gould Dept. Information Systems (Lenguajes y Sistemas Inform=E1ticos) Universitat Jaume I E-12071 Castell=F3n, Spain mailto:gould@lsi.uji.es http://www.mgould.com GIM'04 workshop http://gim04.unizar.es 2nd Vespucci Summer School www.vespucci.org
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