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Subject: RE: [gislist] ArcGIS 9 - recommend postponing installation
Date:  06/01/2004 01:00:01 PM
From:  Michael Gould



At 18:38 01/06/2004, Anthony Quartararo wrote:
>Ok sure, I'll just phone up all my clients, and ask them to scrap their
>hundreds of thousands of dollars in infrastructure centered around ESRI
>technology, not to mention business processes, people and an untold number
>of partners, so I can have one less headache each day. Errrrrrr, survey
>says......try again.

try unplugging a piece at a time. migrate the data in parallel to Deegree=
=20
or Geoserver or MapGuide and then without telling anyone pull the plug on=20
the arcIMS. then the same with the visualization side (Jump etc.).....

your hardware is heterogeneous, now try the software... plug-n-play.

keeping all the eggs in one software basket leaves control in the hands of=
=20
the software vendor.

M Gould



> _____
>
>From: J Bee [mailto:mapcmon@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:44 AM
>To: Anthony Quartararo: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
>Subject: Re: [gislist] ArcGIS 9 - recommend postponing installation
>
>
>"You would also think ESRI could come up with a method that would
>truly "upgrade" previous installations without having to completely
>uninstall the older version first [in the interest of saving a significant
>amount of time...]."
>
>On the flip side, you would also like to think thaqt users such as yourself
>would realize that there are far better alternatives, with more advanced
>technologies, easier to use, and much, much cheaper in cost. I am still
>bewildered as to why folks invest in ESRI, other than an excuse like=
"that's
>what everyone else seems to use"
>
>Well, before the next person jusmps off a cliff, consider Maptitude ($495
>which includes a geocoder) or TransCad (base TransCAD is $2,995 and far
>exceed the power of Arc whateverer...). Heck, even at the risk of waking
>the dead, there's Manifold at something like $300 (which does not include a
>geocoder). Not to mention several other GIS packages.
>
>Comparing ESRI to Microsoft is a misnomer. Very few options for PC
>operating systems. Quite a few options for GIS software.
>
>I dunno, maybe folks just enjoy standing over a toilet, watching their=
money
>go down the drain...
>
>Bob
>
>
>Anthony Quartararo <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com> wrote:
>
>Dear Listers,
>
>Have had ArcGIS 9 (ArcInfo) installed for less than a week. After a rather
>circuitous path to getting it actually installed, and a quick call the ESRI
>tech support, I would have to say at this point that I would strongly
>recommend postponing installation or upgrading until ESRI cleans things up
>and re-issues the CDs. They have pulled a "Microsoft" on this one: the tech
>at ESRI confirmed a known issue with installation on a single license
>dongle [the license administrate does not record the machine name and so a
>secondary step of actually typing it in is required]. But, after having
>tried to work with a dataset that worked just fine under 8.x, it has=
crashed
>multiple times so far with 9.x with a fairly major application error. I
>really am tired of paying a king's ransom for the privilege of advanced
>beta-testing. I will be uninstalling 9.x, and reinstalling 8.x to keep
>working. You would also think ESRI could come up with a method that would
>truly "upgrade" previous installations without having to completely
>uninstall the older version first [in the interest of saving a significant
>amount of time...].
>
>...not a happy camper..
>
>Anthony
>
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Michael Gould
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(Lenguajes y Sistemas Inform=E1ticos)
Universitat Jaume I
E-12071 Castell=F3n, Spain
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