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| Subject: | Fwd: RE: [gislist] ArcGIS 9 - recommend postponing installation |
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06/01/2004 02:15:01 PM |
| From: |
Michael Gould |
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>Date: Tue, 01 Jun 2004 21:11:53 +0200
>To: "Ross, Gregory K." <GKROSS@mail.ifas.ufl.edu>
>From: Michael Gould <gould@lsi.uji.es>
>Subject: RE: [gislist] ArcGIS 9 - recommend postponing installation
>
>nothing so much to do with any one company....
>only that there's too much money being spent on upgrading to the=20
>latest-greatest when, in the end, clear-headed observation shows that=20
>having the latest software does little to improve competitiveness or to=20
>gain market share.
>
>Carr and others have made convincing arguments that one is better off=20
>using a stable version and making it bullet-proof, than to be constantly=20
>upgrading. Of course those of you who feed off the IT budget are likely=20
>to disagree :-)
>
>http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/12.05/view.html?pg=3D2
>
>(I can point to the original article if needed....)
>
>cheers
>Mike Gould
>At 20:17 01/06/2004, Ross, Gregory K. wrote:
>>A look at ESRI's growth record would indicate YES if you mean from their=
=20
>>end. From my end I would also say yes as their software does 99.99% of=20
>>what they say it does. I'm not saying that any one software is better=20
>>than others as some of it is right place at right time for right price.=20
>>Show me a GIS software company that produces a software product or suite=
=20
>>of software that can accomplish ALL the tasks that ESRI software can. I=20
>>would venture that most users that are not happy with the ESRI product=20
>>only use 20% of it's capabilities and they, perhaps, have the right to=20
>>complain about how that 20% is accomplished.
>>
>>Gregg Ross
>>
>>
>>----------
>>From: Michael Gould [mailto:gould@lsi.uji.es]
>>Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 2:09 PM
>>To: Ross, Gregory K.
>>Subject: RE: [gislist] ArcGIS 9 - recommend postponing installation
>>
>>ummm, but here the original complaint was that expensive software does=20
>>work as promised.
>>Is that profitable??
>>
>>
>>MG
>>
>>
>>At 20:06 01/06/2004, Ross, Gregory K. wrote:
>>>Problem with this theory is that, almost universally, businesses (and=
city,
>>>state, federal governments if they are being run efficiently), are NOT
>>>INTERESTED CONTROL of their SOFTWARE, but in MAKING A PROFIT a profit or
>>>getting the job done in the most efficient manner. Hence, don't reinvent=
the
>>>wheel when somebody else has already invested the time, money, and energy=
to
>>>create a product (Microsoft, Oracle, and ESRI come to mind) that performs
>>>the tasks you wish it to perform at an acceptable cost. Start-ups make=
this
>>>mistake much more often than need be................
>>>
>>>
>>>Gregg Ross
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: Michael Gould [mailto:gould@lsi.uji.es]
>>>Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 1:57 PM
>>>To: Anthony Quartararo: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
>>>Subject: RE: [gislist] ArcGIS 9 - recommend postponing installation
>>>
>>>At 18:38 01/06/2004, Anthony Quartararo wrote:
>>> >Ok sure, I'll just phone up all my clients, and ask them to scrap their
>>> >hundreds of thousands of dollars in infrastructure centered around ESRI
>>> >technology, not to mention business processes, people and an untold
>>> >number of partners, so I can have one less headache each day.
>>> >Errrrrrr, survey says......try again.
>>>
>>>try unplugging a piece at a time. migrate the data in parallel to=
Deegree
>>>or Geoserver or MapGuide and then without telling anyone pull the plug on
>>>the arcIMS. then the same with the visualization side (Jump etc.).....
>>>
>>>your hardware is heterogeneous, now try the software... plug-n-play.
>>>
>>>keeping all the eggs in one software basket leaves control in the hands=
of
>>>the software vendor.
>>>
>>>M Gould
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > _____
>>> >
>>> >From: J Bee [mailto:mapcmon@yahoo.com]
>>> >Sent: Tuesday, June 01, 2004 11:44 AM
>>> >To: Anthony Quartararo: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
>>> >Subject: Re: [gislist] ArcGIS 9 - recommend postponing installation
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >"You would also think ESRI could come up with a method that would truly
>>> >"upgrade" previous installations without having to completely uninstall
>>> >the older version first [i
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