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Subject: RE: [gislist] GIS Certification?
Date:  06/10/2004 09:10:01 AM
From:  Scott Grams



I have been monitoring the conversation on this board for sometime regarding
the sanctioning of GISCI at the state level. I wanted to take a stab at
answering the questions posed by Travis Smith in a previous email.

First off, this was a decision made by the state of Oregon and not by GISCI.
GISCI created a voluntary certification program that went live on January 1,
2004. As of May 25th there are 284 certified GIS professionals. GISCI does
have a say with its certification program. It does not have a say in regards
to licensure or official endorsement. Licensure is a decision made by a
state to adopt an existing certification program for its own use.

Oregon has been pursuing this initiative through its Geographic Information
Council for some time. From my understanding, they developed a committee to
review the program and then made a formal recommendation to the Council. The
state then adopted the program based on the recommendation made by the OGIC.
All states would need to go through a similar process. Oregon's decision is
not a mandate for the rest of the country. GISCI had no part in this process
other than to create the mechanism that was used for the State's decision.
GISCI has strong faith in its program and feels that Oregon has not made a
mistake with their decision.

To answer the follow-up questions:
1. WHAT other agencies will soon follow suit to Oregon?

Since states do not need GISCI's blessing we cannot be sure. There are other
states reviewing the GISCI program in Committee. It would be more prudent to
ask your state's GIC (or a similar body) rather than GISCI.

2. WHY are the ASPRS and URISA not collaborating on the GIS certificate
program?

ASPRS and GISCI offer 2 different types of certification. ASPRS certifies a
"Mapping Scientist" and GISCI certifies a "GIS Professional." Both
organizations use a different criteria and mechanism to do this.

3. IF the ASPRS and URISA can't work together on such an effort, then how
many other disparate groups are going to be offering GIS certificate
programs down the road (maybe we'll start seeing ads along with dental
hygienist and small engine repair technician in the TV Guide)?

I cannot speak for ASPRS. The structure of GISCI invites other spatial
organizations to serve on the GISCI Board of Governors. These organizations
would serve as council to the GISCI Board. It is the idea that this effort
to make GISCI more multilateral will avoid the TV Guide certification
imitators you mentioned.

4. SHOULD such certificates only be sanctioned in a state by state basis in
the future, such as PEs, Landscape Architect certification and teaching
licenses?

That is up to each state. That would be a tough legislative campaign to
coordinate on a national level.

5. WHO has the authority to clear this problem up?

GISCI would love to hear your concerns. If you have specific questions
contact me at sgrams@gisci.org and I will be happy to address them.

FYI - I do not know specific details about where a state is heading in
regards to licensure or GISCI endorsement. I will not be able to accurately
answer those questions.

Thanks for the discussion.

Regards,
Scott Grams
GISCI Certification Manager



-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com]On Behalf Of Barricarte,
Monica - Monica, CA
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 4:38 PM
To: Smith Travis G Civ 56 RMO/GIS: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com: OR GIS
List
Subject: RE: [gislist] GIS Certification?


Do you guys know what's going on with the state of California regarding
the certification?
Thanks
Monica

Cachuma Resource Conservation District
920 East Stowell Rd.
Santa Maria, CA 93454
phone (805) 928 9269 x 120
fax (805) 928 9644

-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com] On Behalf Of Smith Travis
G Civ 56 RMO/GIS
Sent: Wednesday, June 09, 2004 2:16 PM
To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com: OR GIS List
Subject: [gislist] GIS Certification?


Listers,

Per the following article (pg. 18) in the June 2004 issue of Geospatial
Solutions magazine, the State of Oregon has formally sanctioned the
GISCI
certification for geospatial data administration (data serving). I just
recently applied for GIS certification through the ASPRS, completing the
application process, identifying four professional references and
spending
the $350. After going through this entire process, I find out about the
State of Oregon's decision.

>>>>
The State of Oregon has officially adopted the GISCI Certification,
which
requires any agency or organization in Oregon that share geospatial data
with other organizations or the public to have a certified individual
who is
responsible for sharing that data, following the best practices, as set
forth by the profession. For more information about certification and
the

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