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| Subject: | RE: [gislist] GIS Certification? |
| Date: |
06/10/2004 11:50:02 AM |
| From: |
Michael Gould |
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At 18:05 10/06/2004, Chris Barber wrote:
>If you had two candidates for the same GIS job, one with a GISCI (or=20
>other) certificate and the other without (and all other factors equal),=20
>which would you hire?
red herring. the taller one would also be better, since studies show that=
=20
tall people are more successful in business.
is this minor difference significant, is the real question.
>This is a question for anyone who cares to answer, not just Bob. And it's=
=20
>not intended to challenge anyone's point of view, it's just a=20
>question. I've always assumed having a certificate of whatever kind is=20
>better that not having one....even a PPC.
>
>Chris
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: J Bee [mailto:mapcmon@yahoo.com]
>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 11:54 AM
>To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
>Subject: RE: [gislist] GIS Certification?
>
>
>Say what?
>
>The mere fact that this idea of a GIS certification is needed in the=20
>corporate woorld, by itself, invites debate. Beyond that, my response=20
>aligns more to what Anthorny and Travis have questioned than to a debate=20
>with you. If you want to run and hide then do so.
>
>As far as "far to many applications" to spend time debating, I mean=20
>c'mon. I'm sure you've heard that there is a sucker in every crowd, and=20
>if the number of appications you have received (for all I know could be 20=
=20
>or so) is your justification for such a program, then your justification=20
>is weak. Many folks might be applying because they fear their current job=
=20
>or future chances of employment may be jepordized by a ridiculous=20
>certification requirement imposed upon them by some bureaucratic gobbly=
gook.
>
>Again, if you don't want to debate - oh yes - because you are so busy,=20
>then step aside and let others speak.
>
>
>
>Scott Grams <sgrams@urisa.org> wrote:
>Bob,
>
>I wasn't looking for a debate. We have too many applications on hand to
>spend time engaged in one of those. I thought it would be helpful for
>Anthony to review the GISCI program, and what it looks to certify, before=
it
>is condemned.
>
>Regards,
>Scott Grams
>GISCI Certification Manager
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
>[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com]On Behalf Of J Bee
>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:29 AM
>To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
>Subject: RE: [gislist] GIS Certification?
>
>
>Scott,
>
>You completely missed Anthony's main point - the meat of his message:
>
>"This whole certification initiative is a SOLUTION
>looking for a PROBLEM. Really now, what was the original impetus for
>starting this effort waaaay back when ? How on earth did the GIS industry
>ever make it this far WITHOUT "certified" professionals ?"
>
>The fact that you only responded to his question of how tests are taken
>merely shows the weakmess and complete insanity of a GIS Certificate. I -
>like many others, don't have one, won't get one, and don't need one.
>
>Oh sure, hanging another certicifcate on your wall and smoking a pipe while
>talking about your GIS certificate school days (while also rubbing your
>balding head) probably sounds grandor, but please, give me a break! This
>field is changing so fast that a certificate means n-o-t-h-i-n-g. I have
>taken on college interns and watched them turn into excellent GIS
>professionsals, and guess what - no certification! What a scam, what a
>fallacy, and what a bureaucratic false sense of security. Sounds like some
>GISers have this low self esteem about themselves, and maybe some little
>paper certificate makes them feel good all over. Please.
>
>Bob, PPC (PowerPoint Certified)
>
>
>Scott Grams wrote:
>Anthony,
>
>The former CEO of Kinkos would be proud. The GISCI Certification program is
>not examination based. It does not favor good test takers who memorize
>facts. It is a portfolio based system that looks at an individuals
>educational achievement, professional experience, and contributions back to
>the profession. Please visit www.gisci.org for more information.
>
>Regards,
>Scott Grams
>GISCI Certification Manager
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
>[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com]On Behalf Of Anthony
>Quartararo
>Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 10:02 AM
>To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
>Subject: RE: [gislist] GIS Certification?
>
>
>I've made my opinion known on this subject in the past. I really hate to
>say "I told you so...". This whole certification initiative is a SOLUTION
>looking f
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