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Subject: RE: [gislist] GIS Certification?
Date:  06/11/2004 03:25:01 AM
From:  Michael Gould



Yes indeed. in an earlier message I mentioned pragmatism.
people often confuse the term as synonymous with "practical" when in fact=
=20
it has more to do with the _practical implications of something being=20
true_. or rather, ok, so there's a difference...but does it MATTER?

ergo, as Clive points out, our society could try to regulate and certify=20
everything out there (are YOU qualified to be using a browser to read this=
=20
message?) but what REAL gain would be had? in many cases the noise is=20
greater than the signal.

M Gould



At 06:49 11/06/2004, Clive Poole wrote:
> > Attitude over aptitude. Certification does not measure attitude.
>
>Couldn't agree more. Taking the whole analogy to a logical absurdity how do
>we start the certification process for our world's political leaders?
>Perhaps this has more urgency than that for GIS specialists at present.
>
>Have a look this link. This was work from one of our non qualifed=
Geospatial
>scientists. Please let me know if you would not consider his skills due to
>lack of certification?
>
>http://www.directionsmag.com/remote.sensing.contest/?s=3DAround+the+World+i=
n+1
>80+Million+Years
>
>Cheers
>Clive
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
> > [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com]On Behalf Of Carl Reed
> > Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 4:17 AM
> > To: Martin du Saire: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com: Michael Gould
> > Subject: Re: [gislist] GIS Certification?
> >
> >
> > Following what MG states, there is an old business adage WRT hiring -
> > Attitude over aptitude. Certification does not measure attitude.
> >
> > Carl
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Gould" <gould@lsi.uji.es>
> > To: "Martin du Saire" <mdusaire@umn.edu>: <gislist@lists.thinkburst.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 12:30 PM
> > Subject: RE: [gislist] GIS Certification?
> >
> >
> > Good analogy. The SAT, if you dig deep, is not a good measure of future
> > success....however it has been peddled on Americans as the silver bullet
> > number.
> >
> > Go ahead, and certify everything humans do. It won't improve=
performance,
> > behavior, pragmatism.
> >
> > Control freaks.
> >
> > MG
> >
> >
> > At 19:11 10/06/2004, Martin du Saire wrote:
> > >Not being a GIS professional take my opinion as a grain of salt:
> > >
> > >Certification per se, is not the problem. It is no different than any
> > >other measure of "competency", say the SAT. The problem is when any=
one
> > >measure, or small subset of measures is given far more weight than it
> > deserves.
> > >
> > >Martin (Innocent bystander)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >At 11:33 AM 6/10/2004 -0400, you wrote:
> > >>I have visited. I've been following this since early rumblings of it=
at
> > >>URISA surfaced with Dr. Huxhold, and I was actually an early support=
of
> > it.
> > >>Reality and experience changed all that. I see numbers things
> > to download
> > >>on the site, but what I don't see is examples of this "portfolio"
> > >>measurement process, or the criteria used to compare one person's
> > >>"portfolio" vs. the next person to apply. You'll no doubt see
> > where I am
> > >
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> > -----------------------
> > Michael Gould
> > Dept. Information Systems
> > (Lenguajes y Sistemas Inform=E1ticos)
> > Universitat Jaume I
> > E-12071 Castell=F3n, Spain
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