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Subject: RE: [gislist] GIS Certification?
Date:  06/11/2004 11:10:03 AM
From:  J Bee



"The purpose of the GIS Certification Institute is to provide those professionals who work in the field of geographic information systems with a formal process that will:

Allow them to be recognized by their colleagues and peers for having demonstrated exemplary professional practice and integrity in the field"

Again I point to an insecurity complex. Afraid you are not as good or as important as the Jones's next door?

"Encourage aspiring GIS professionals to work towards certification for the purpose of professional development and advancement. Encourage established GIS professionals to continue to hone their professional skills and ethical performance even as GIS technology changes"

Wow, no one would ever do this without a certification program. Why do we need buraucarcy to run our profession/lives. Your annual job performance review by a supervisor/manager should adequately handle this function.

"Certification can provide recognition and satisfaction for a life-time in a career activity. Individuals can advance through various levels of certification, receive honors and recognition..."

How completely pathetic, and most likely the driving force behind this effort. Again, feeling a little insecure are we?

Maybe handing out carts at Wal Mart should be certifed?

Bob -CSPGFU (Certified Self-Punp Gas Filler Upper)


Marc Allred <mallred@nwpcog.org> wrote:
I haven't been reading every thread so I may have missed something, but I have a few questions?
1) Where in the documentation does it say that ESRI had anything to do with developing this certificate? I'm not even sure how they even benefit from it. I have read where they support it, but that is different from developing it.

2) Who said that not having a certificate would make it so your not qualified to do GIS? I haven't read that in any of the documentation.

I'm wondering if people have read something I haven't.

I copied and pasted this from their website.
Our Purpose

The purpose of the GIS Certification Institute is to provide those professionals who work in the field of geographic information systems with a formal process that will:

Allow them to be recognized by their colleagues and peers for having demonstrated exemplary professional practice and integrity in the field
Establish and maintain high standards of both professional practice and ethical conduct
Encourage aspiring GIS professionals to work towards certification for the purpose of professional development and advancement
Encourage established GIS professionals to continue to hone their professional skills and ethical performance even as GIS technology changes

What is Certification?
Certification is career recognition through the evaluation and approval of individuals engaged in a specific occupation or profession. Professional certification has expanded significantly over the past decades.
Certification as a general practice is offered by national membership associations representing a particular career.

Certification can provide recognition and satisfaction for a life-time in a career activity. Individuals can advance through various levels of certification, receive honors and recognition, at the same time improve their performance, and increase customer or client satisfaction.

Through preparation, instruction, procedural guidelines, and ethics statements: individuals with certification improve themselves and create more productive careers.

Most certification programs also have renewal requirements that include continuing education to ensure that participants remain current in their field.

In addition, once certification is received it can indicate certain capabilities to clients and customers.



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: J Bee
Date: Fri, 11 Jun 2004 07:36:28 -0700 (PDT)

>"I also checked out GISCI certification and find it very fair as well as
>meaningful to both the certificate holder and a prospective employer. The
>process is actually evenly divided into thirds. Education alone is not
>enough, but long-time work experience can be while the grandfather clause is
>still in effect. A BS in Geography, 7 years relevant experience and some
>contributions to 'the field' (participation in conferences, publications,
>etc.) is enough for certification. "
>
>Am I still missing something? Going back to Anthony's original question, why is certification needed? What do you mean by fair? Seven years work experience with education is enough to be considered certified? Really? You mean after five or six years (with education) I am not "certifed" or as it implies, qualified to do GIS? Gime me a break...and talk about insulting!
>
>As was mentioned in past posts, how in god's name did GIS ever get to this point without a certification program. My guess is th

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