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Subject: RE: [gislist] GIS vs. CAD
Date:  06/29/2004 10:55:01 AM
From:  mstone .. directcon.net



You can currently test drive the new flagship Autodesk product that picks up
where AUtdoesk Map 2004 left off, it's called Map 2005 3D. I am both an ESRI
and Autodesk user, however, not for CAD related stuff. I do have to say, when
it comes to web-based GIS app's, I still feel that Autodesk Mapguide has ESRI
beat on simplicity, a major factor for me. As far as I know, AUtodesk does
handle projection conversions and the only thing seemingly lacking is the
utilities provided in some of ESRI's ArcGIS extensions. The interface in
Autodesk map is not what I am used to since it follows the CAD look and feel
and I just haven't had enough time to hurdle the software learning curve to
make it worthwhile.

I guess one has to look at pricing as a major issue since both are not cheap,
but I am able to use educational pricing at ESRI and there is no such thing
with Autodesk.

Matthew Stone, MPH
UCSF/CA Dept. of Health Services
Epidemiology and Program Evaluation Unit
1616 Capitol Ave MS 7212
PO BOX 997413
Sacramento CA 95899-7413
PH: 916-552-9918
FAX: 916-552-9911
mstone@dhs.ca.gov



It used to be that CAD couldn't handle projections well, but that was
> years ago. Does anyone know if you can easily and successfully
> reproject data in Autodesk?
>
> Thanks,
> dt
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
> [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Ursela Jule
> Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 9:06 AM
> To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
> Subject: [gislist] GIS vs. CAD
>
> Long time lurker - first time poster...
>
> I have been an exclusive GIS user and my department uses ESRI and it
> fits our needs quite nicely - my boss (non-GIS or CAD person) has been
> talking around and finding out that some others use CAD (Autodesk) - and
> now has come to me wondering why we aren't. I tried to explain that we
> do a little bit of spatial analysis and CAD really isn't designed for
> that and tried to explain the difference between a CAD and GIS.
>
> However I have been out of the loop on CAD, and I suspect that she's (my
> boss) has been talking to an Autodesk vendor - and my knowledge of the
> differences are maybe not as current as the advances in AutoCAD
> apparently have been.
>
> So I am looking at an ad here where Autodesk is saying "ESRI's approach
> to
> GIS will only take you so far." Seems to be referring to the
> integration
> of CAD and GIS only - but I ask you - just how close is software for CAD
> (such as Autodesk products) getting to being called a GIS?
>
> Is there a line in the sand still?
>
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