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Subject: RE: [gislist] Making the *Environmental* in Systems Research Institute somewhat less relevant
Date:  07/29/2004 06:55:01 AM
From:  Margaret Gooding



Well, I have a couple of cents to add. First of all, ESRI of Redlands is in
southern California not the Pacific Northwest (I live and work near ESRI).
I am an environmentalist, too, but with a practical bent.
Congressman Jerry Lewis may be a Republican and I would not vote for him,
but he has worked hard to save the Salton Sea and to do something about the
blight brought about by the bark beetle infestation in our local mountains.
Both are causes Jack believes in strongly and contributes time, resources
and money to.

At 07:45 AM 7/28/2004, Anthony Quartararo wrote:
>Well said Gregory. Note to John:
>
>Not all ESRI product users subscriber to the "warm-fuzzy, tree-hugging,
>granola-crunching, berkenstock-wearing, Earth-First! Monkey-wrench gang,
>PETA activism" mentality that seems to ooze from Redlands and other parts of
>the Pacific Northwest. Furthermore, whatever Mr. Dangermond (aka. Jack)
>wants to do with HIS money or HIS company, that's HIS prerogative. Last
>time anyone checked, he owned 100% of it. In fact, we Americans (and to a
>lesser extent, Canadians and Europeans) wallow in the luxurious notion of
>global environmentalism, simply because we are so well-off and so fortunate
>that it is no longer a challenge to "live" each day, so with all the "spare"
>time on our hands, we think of "sophisticated" ways to hinder the progress
>of others [ie. environmentalism in developing countries], while
>simultaneously whining about gas that is $2 per gallon, when it really
>should be $10 per gallon. Notwithstanding the veracity of the purported
>donations, Jack and ESRI have probably done more collectively, to promote
>environmental issues in every aspect of a society, across the globe than any
>other FOR PROFIT corporation, bar none. So quit yer moaning and vote, just
>don't pepper the list with any more left-leaning dribble please. Thank you.
>
>Anthony
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
> > [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Ross,
> > Gregory K.
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2004 9:21 AM
> > To: 'John Mickelson': 'gislist@lists.geocomm.com'
> > Subject: RE: [gislist] Making the *Environmental* in Systems
> > Research Institute somewhat less relevant
> >
> > John,
> >
> > Not really sure what your post implies, though I have a
> > vague idea that you are not happy with our current
> > administration and lack the patience to wait until election
> > day to voice your opinion.
> >
> > >From Dictionary. COM:
> >
> > en*vi*ron*men*tal adj. (n-vrn-mntl, -vrn-)
> > 1.Of, relating to, or associated with the environment.
> > 2.Relating to or being concerned with the ecological impact
> > of altering the environment.
> > 3.Medicine. Of or relating to potentially harmful factors
> > originating in the
> > environment: environmental illness.
> >
> > One would assume that ESRI uses the first (and most common)
> > definition, thereby having NOTHING to do with the second definition.
> >
> > I have always believed that one has the right to voice there
> > opinion at the right place and the right time. How the
> > environment is being looked after in this country is a matter
> > of opinion. This list is neither the right place or the right
> > time for political banter. It reeks of using a source of good (the
> > list) to try to sway public opinion (or as I like to call it,
> > imposing your beliefs upon me).
> >
> > Gregory Ross
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Mickelson [mailto:jmickelct@yahoo.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 27, 2004 10:52 PM
> > To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
> > Subject: [gislist] Making the *Environmental* in Systems
> > Research Institute somewhat less relevant
> >
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > New to the list, came upon this item that, frankly, deeply shocked,
> > saddened and, to be honest angered me...
> > Just thought that folks might like to have some idea of where
> > their hard
> > earned software dollars and going to and what kind of a
> > "future" their
> > investment just may be bringing them (especially
> > environmentally speaking).
> >
> > John Mickelson
> >
> > (PS the Jerry Lewis mentioned is a Republican representative
> > in CA, not
> > the comedian...).
> > Please also notice the recent (and largest) donations to Ralph Nader
> > (somewhat cynical.... so much for his not worth being c

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