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Subject: Re: [gislist] GIS software/hardware donations for 3rd World
Date:  01/28/2005 09:10:02 AM
From:  Gregory Yetman



Hi,

ESRI heavily discounts educational sales in the US as well (I'm not sure
of the precise percentage). Besides, I think that ESRI sales outside of
the US are by licensed resellers rather than from Redlands, so I don't
know how much control ESRI US has over prices in other countries. The
complaints that I've heard of talking to people have been that the ESRI
software is much more expensive outside of the US.

Greg

Note: this is my opinion, not that of my employer.

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Gregory Yetman
Center for International Earth Science Information Network (CIESIN)
Columbia University
URL: http://www.ciesin.columbia.edu/
e-mail: gyetman (at) ciesin.columbia.edu
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Pat Waggaman wrote:

> 90% is one serious discount, submerged invisibly behind the flaming banner
> of "educational technology transfer."
>
> Sounds like an interesting variant on "dumping" to me e.g. the sale in
> offshore markets of items, defined as "underpriced" because the "dumping
> market price" does not reflect the pricing predominant in the producers
> domestic market.
>
> Only thing is that the usual complaint bringers to the WTO do not exist,
> they would be ESRI competitors in India. The aggrieved parties are those
> who pay full price in the US to subsidize their offshore competition.
>
> As - happily - not an ESRI shop, doesn't make any difference to me: but it
> would seem appropriate for influential ESRI customers to raise holy hell:
> "first ESRI exacts extraordinary rents from customers - me - then uses that
> surplus to subsidize the competition."
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pat Waggaman
>
> At 09:29 28-01-2005, gisisndia wrote:
> >pl let me know whom to contact for getting ESRI products at 10%. Who are
> >eligible to get at such price.
> >Thanks
> >
> >Kiran
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: GISex* Technologies <gisex@dacafe.com>
> >To: <hvp@regiononepdc.org>
> >Cc: <gislist@lists.geocomm.com>
> >Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:49 AM
> >Subject: Re: [gislist] GIS software/hardware donations for 3rd World
> >
> >
> > > In India so many such GIS schools are establsihed with the help of ESRI
> > > they give the software at 10% price, what else? and all such schools are
> > > producing talents.
> > > --
> > > Krishan Sharma, Ph.D. (USA)
> > > www.gisextechnologies.com
> > > info@gisextechnologies.com
> > > Mobile: 933-300-8409 & 0987-0129-4791
> > >
> > > >
> > > > This discussion can easily be broadened to also include the rural parts
> >of
> > > > developED nations, like the US Appalachian belt, aptly described in "I
> >Am
> > > > a Soldier, Too" as "opportunity-deficit" areas. Such economically
> > > > distressed regions offer neither cheap skilled labor nor attractive
> > > > infrastructure, and hence, may be the bigger losers in globalization. As
> > > > proximity breeds participation, often their only claim to fame is the
> > > > offer of a bucolic lifestyle close to large urban centers.
> >Revitalization
> > > > of such blighted communities within developED nations may pose a bigger
> > > > challenge from a technology/social stand-point.
> > > >
> > > > Harsh Prakash
> > > > GIS Planner
> > > >
> > > >> -----Original Message-----
> > > >> From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
> > > >> [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf
> > > > Of RICK GRAY
> > > >> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:04 PM
> > > >> To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
> > > >> Subject: [gislist] GIS software/hardware donations
> > > > for 3rd World
> > > >>
> > > >> Hello GIS friends,
> > > >>
> > > >> As part of an international development project in
> > > > Africa, I have
> > > > been
> > > >> asked
> > > >> to help establish a GIS lab in a local college to
> > > > train students in
> > > > the
> > > >> use
> > > >> of GIS as a land use planning tool so that when the
> > > > project ends, the
> > > >> locals
> > > >> will be that much more self sufficient.
> > > >>
> > > >> I am seeking advice on acquiring software

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