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| Subject: | RE: [gislist] GIS software/hardware donations for 3rd World |
| Date: |
01/28/2005 10:00:02 AM |
| From: |
Jesse White |
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ESRI and Autodesk gave copies of their software to several school
districts in Virginia. They have been helpful in our efforts to
develop a stand alone high school course in Geospatial Technology.
I do not know if Virginia is the only state that has a career
pathway to GIS and related technologies. However, our school
district is in an area where some of the technology was first
developed (NASA Langley Research Center). So, now we are able to
offer a full year high school course in the technology in addition
to geography. My hope is our students develop a purposeful
approach to career planning and see GeoTech (as we call it) as a
viable and emerging occupation. Most of the GIS experts that I
know did not know anything about the technology until years after
high school. I do not know anyone who said, "When I grow up, I
want to be a GIS expert."
Jesse W. White, Curriculum Leader
Career and Technical Education
School Administration Center
One Franklin Street
Hampton, VA 23669-3570
757.727.2466
757.727.2468 (fax)
This country will not be a good place for any of us to live in
unless we make it a good place for all of us to live in."
--Theodore Roosevelt
-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com]On Behalf Of Gregory
Yetman
Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 10:08 AM
To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: Re: [gislist] GIS software/hardware donations for 3rd
World
Hi,
ESRI heavily discounts educational sales in the US as well (I'm
not sure
of the precise percentage). Besides, I think that ESRI sales
outside of
the US are by licensed resellers rather than from Redlands, so I
don't
know how much control ESRI US has over prices in other countries.
The
complaints that I've heard of talking to people have been that the
ESRI
software is much more expensive outside of the US.
Greg
Note: this is my opinion, not that of my employer.
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Gregory Yetman
Center for International Earth Science Information Network
(CIESIN)
Columbia University
URL: http://www.ciesin.columbia.edu/
e-mail: gyetman (at) ciesin.columbia.edu
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On Fri, 28 Jan 2005, Pat Waggaman wrote:
> 90% is one serious discount, submerged invisibly behind the
flaming banner
> of "educational technology transfer."
>
> Sounds like an interesting variant on "dumping" to me e.g. the
sale in
> offshore markets of items, defined as "underpriced" because the
"dumping
> market price" does not reflect the pricing predominant in the
producers
> domestic market.
>
> Only thing is that the usual complaint bringers to the WTO do
not exist,
> they would be ESRI competitors in India. The aggrieved parties
are those
> who pay full price in the US to subsidize their offshore
competition.
>
> As - happily - not an ESRI shop, doesn't make any difference to
me: but it
> would seem appropriate for influential ESRI customers to raise
holy hell:
> "first ESRI exacts extraordinary rents from customers - me -
then uses that
> surplus to subsidize the competition."
>
> Cheers,
>
> Pat Waggaman
>
> At 09:29 28-01-2005, gisisndia wrote:
> >pl let me know whom to contact for getting ESRI products at
10%. Who are
> >eligible to get at such price.
> >Thanks
> >
> >Kiran
> >----- Original Message -----
> >From: GISex* Technologies <gisex@dacafe.com>
> >To: <hvp@regiononepdc.org>
> >Cc: <gislist@lists.geocomm.com>
> >Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 11:49 AM
> >Subject: Re: [gislist] GIS software/hardware donations for 3rd
World
> >
> >
> > > In India so many such GIS schools are establsihed with the
help of ESRI
> > > they give the software at 10% price, what else? and all such
schools are
> > > producing talents.
> > > --
> > > Krishan Sharma, Ph.D. (USA)
> > > www.gisextechnologies.com
> > > info@gisextechnologies.com
> > > Mobile: 933-300-8409 & 0987-0129-4791
> > >
> > > >
> > > > This discussion can easily be broadened to also include
the rural parts
> >of
> > > > developED nations, like the US Appalachian belt, aptly
described in "I
> >Am
> > > > a Soldier, Too" as "opportunity-deficit" areas. Such
economically
> > > > distressed regions offer neither cheap skilled labor nor
attractive
> > > > infrastructure, and hence, may be the bigger losers in
globalization. As
> > > > proximity breeds participation, often their only claim to
fame is the
> > > > offer of a bucolic lifestyl
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