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Subject: RE: [gislist] GIS software/hardware donations for 3rd World
Date:  01/28/2005 11:00:02 AM
From:  Jon Mitchell



An old story that has relevance to the thread:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/2731949.stm

Always sceptical of any corporate altruism...

Jon

-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com]On Behalf Of Michael Gould
Carlson
Sent: 28 January 2005 16:10
To: Anthony Quartararo
Cc: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
Subject: RE: [gislist] GIS software/hardware donations for 3rd World


Yes, let us not call this practice discounting, when it is seeding the
market.

All prices are negotiable in this world. If it is interesting for a
company to
capture market share (in a particular area, state, ...) then the price
will
approach zero in order to get the job done.

Someone asked "how can I get a 90% discount?" The answer is clearly "be
strategic" from the vendor's viewpoint. :-)

M Gould


Quoting Anthony Quartararo <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com>:

> Excellent points Pat. ESRI (and others) supposed business partner
programs
> also fall into this category as well. ESRI's strategy, long ago, was
to
> seed the universities with "Arc-speak" at any cost [read: free or just
about
> free licenses] so that newly minted graduates would conclude that GIS
= ESRI
> ["arc" for example, being a proprietary software command line used by
ESRI
> and not necessarily a universally accepted concept], but ask any
graduate
> today about what they know regarding GIS and a good number will start
out by
> saying, "We used ESRI.....". Great strategic vision, if nothing else.
The
> other vendors have not been nearly as successful in trying to push
their
> products down to the formative years of GIS/Geographic education, and
so it
> is true around the world. This is not 100% a bad thing, by any means,
but,
> it does conveniently lead to a natural dominance by ESRI in the global
> market, one that they are loath to relinquish anytime soon. How many
> clients have had their systems converted for "free" or "nearly free"
if they
> switch platforms ? Well, that is another vehicle for subsidization,
because
> migrating from Intergraph to ESRI is not cheap by any means. Anyway,
I got
> pummeled on this topic by a number of open source advocates, so I will
> return to my cave now...
>
> Anthony
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