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Subject: [gislist] RE: gislist Digest, Vol 19, Issue 13 - RE: GIS education/degree
Date:  02/14/2005 12:30:04 PM
From:  Richard Norzagaray



I am currently taking GIS courses for an associate's degree in GIS.
However, I started out as a geo-Tech right out of the military several
years ago.

I moved to Houston, TX. (97) and was hired on with an oil & gas company
as a contract geo-tech. Basically I was hired to work with spreadsheets
in creating 2-way time for the Geoscience guys.
I then met up with a GIS guru within the company who basically wrote
AML's in creating his maps in ArcInfo 7. I was hooked after watching
what he did. I started out by doing the work that the GIS guys really
did not want to do and yes, it was digitizing. But from that, I learned
later to populate my digitized work, create menus and write small AML's.
I was on my way. I was then told by my manager that the local college
has an associate's degree program and that I should check into it. So I
started taking one class a time. And three contract jobs later (2 yrs
apiece) I feel I am a very well seasoned GIS specialist. The experience
working contract allowed me many experiences with which each one was
better (and more pay) then the last. I now work as an employee for a
good company and am still working on my associate's degree one class a
time.

Best regards to all, =20

Richard Norzagaray
ArcGIS Tech and Mapping Support =20
Hunt Oil
1445 Ross Ave. #24042
Dallas, Texas 75202
Ph: 214-978-8742

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1. RE: RE: GIS education/degree (Tim Smith)
2. RE: RE: GIS education/degree (Anthony Quartararo)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:58:06 -0000
From: "Tim Smith" <tsmith@micromill.com>
Subject: RE: [gislist] RE: GIS education/degree
To: "Barb Wallner" <wallnebj@mail.milwaukee.k12.wi.us>,
<gislist@lists.thinkburst.com>
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I am a university graduate, majoring in 'Software Engineering with Image
and Multimedia Systems'.
I was taken on by my current employer in the UK for the position of 'GIS
Software Engineer'. I had absolutely no GIS experience when I applied
for my position. Strangely, the advert did not allude to the nature of
the position (I found out when I got the job), they were just looking
for a science or engineering graduate with some software experience,
thus not giving an experienced non-graduate GIS person a chance.

I guess this supports the notion that some employers will first vet
applicants based purely on their education.

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From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Barb Wallner
Sent: 11 February 2005 17:18
To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: [gislist] RE: GIS education/degree


I'm sure there are enough people on this listserv who are working in
some compacity in GIS without a university degree, and who do not have
the time or the money to pursue a 4-year degree to move into the
graduate program were it seems that universities like to offer it. I'm
sure there are 2 reasons for this. The "official" reason is to have
students who already have a discipline "on paper". The "unofficial"
reason is that GIS can be learned without a 4-year degree but
universities need the revenue. If you have passion in the areas of
mapping, earth science, environmental issues, geography, you are
already, I'm sure, we

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