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| Subject: | [gislist] Re: gislist Digest, Vol 19, Issue 13 |
| Date: |
02/14/2005 12:55:02 PM |
| From: |
Robert Oblinsky |
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Barb,
Here is my take on this topic. Yes, a person who does not have a
degree from a two year/four year degree granting institution can perform
very well in many capacities with the GIS community. There are many of
these people contributing a large amount of time, effort and quality to
the field. I know of many cases where Local Government employees have
been in a position for 25-30 years before GIS came along, and were
"absorbed" into the GIS department. Even without a degree of any kind,
let alone a degree that has recently led into the GIS field, these
people have embraced the GIS technology and are advancing the use of the
technology in many ways.
However, I also believe that these people are severly limited in their
ability to obtain staff positions that will direct and guide the
development of any GIS project/program. Without the credentials that a
conferred degree affords, employers are not going to task these people
with making decisions that determine functionality, design and utility
of what amounts to a major capital investment. The people that are
entrusted with making these investment decisions are going to be
required to have a certain level of education.
If your concern boils down to asking "Can a person work in the GIS
field without a degree?", the answer is yes they can. If you are asking
"Can a person with a degree advance in the GIS field to a point that
they are no longer simply maintaining geometry and attribution?", the
answer is probably not. WIthout the degree, the advancement within what
is perceived to be a technical field is severly limited.
Hope it helps!
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 09:58:06 -0000
From: "Tim Smith" <tsmith@micromill.com>
Subject: RE: [gislist] RE: GIS education/degree
To: "Barb Wallner" <wallnebj@mail.milwaukee.k12.wi.us>,
<gislist@lists.thinkburst.com>
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I am a university graduate, majoring in 'Software Engineering with
Image
and Multimedia Systems'.
I was taken on by my current employer in the UK for the position of
'GIS
Software Engineer'. I had absolutely no GIS experience when I applied
for my position. Strangely, the advert did not allude to the nature of
the position (I found out when I got the job), they were just looking
for a science or engineering graduate with some software experience,
thus not giving an experienced non-graduate GIS person a chance.
I guess this supports the notion that some employers will first vet
applicants based purely on their education.
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From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Barb Wallner
Sent: 11 February 2005 17:18
To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: [gislist] RE: GIS education/degree
I'm sure there are enough people on this listserv who are working in
some compacity in GIS without a university degree, and who do not have
the time or the money to pursue a 4-year degree to move into the
graduate program were it seems that universities like to offer it.
I'm
sure there are 2 reasons for this. The "official" reason is to have
students who already have a discipline "on paper". The "unofficial"
reason is that GIS can be learned without a 4-year degree but
universities need the revenue. If you have passion in the areas of
mapping, earth science, environmental issues, geography, you are
already, I'm sure, well-versed in your passion, and can do just as
well
as someone with a "paper degree".
I would like to see some defense, one way or another, on this
discussion
from university people.
Sincerely,
Barb
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:20:32 -0500
From: "Anthony Quartararo" <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com>
Subject: RE: [gislist] RE: GIS education/degree
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