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Subject: Re: [gislist] RE: GIS education/degree
Date:  02/15/2005 02:00:02 AM
From:  GISex* Technologies



Yes, sir, you have given an excellent account of your experience to have a
formal GIS eduaction or not, the experience of brit engineers are old
stories, now you have to have a regular GIS eduaction preferablly one
should have good knowledge of geography and engineering background.
Application development in GIS is the core competancy one needs to have
domain knowlegde, therefore, formal eduaction from regognised university
is a must,not in the use of use of a OTS software package this sort of
traning is of a very short durations.
--
Krishan Sharma, Ph.D. (USA)
www.gisextechnologies.com
info@gisextechnologies.com
Mobile: 933-300-8409 & 0987-0129-4791

>
> I know some quite proficient engineers is aerospace and software
> who learned engineering through apprenticeships, starting as
> teenagers. That is certainly rare now and these guys are senior
> citizens, but it shows that an engineer can be trained on the job.
> The people I am thinking of are Brits, and their employers had
> senior engineers involved in their training and also sent them to
> various schools to acquire specific skills. What they missed was
> the other parts of what is termed a liberal education -- foreign language,
> Western civ, etc., that are intended to mold an "educated person"
> rather than give specific job skills. That seems not to be valued as
> much these days.
>
> From the other side, I got the liberal education in geography back
> before GIS existed -- GIS was just McHarg's first book and SYMAP
> -- and then went into software engineering that had no geographic side,
> Space Shuttle flight software. With software engineering just recently
> discovered, nobody had much of a head start, so we all picked it up
> along the way, coming from a wide variety of academic backgrounds,
> sharing an informal kind of apprenticeship. It was exciting being in
> the midst of a lot of bright people who wanted to master this
> discipline.
>
> IMHO the key to SW engineering is for the company to have
> practices in place, rather than expecting new arrivals already to know
> how things should be done. Basic principles, but not concrete
> practices, which are specific to the organization.** There is a place for
> people who have training in a specific tool (I wish we had someone in
> our group who who knows how to tame our particular mapping engine)
> to achieve specific results quickly without fuss, and I don't know that
> the rest of their background matters too much. But in my work, that
> involves AI support of banking, it's mostly software engineering and
> data exploration, although the data has a strong spatial element. I
> wish we had someone with a GIS background in the specific tool,
> because times where we have to thrash around and figure out how
> to do it would be simple for the GIS expert. In that job, the person
> would need to grow the GIS expert's role, by showing how his or her
> skills expand the capabilities. That would require maturity and some
> salesmanship as well as technical competence. Are those taught?
> Another consideration is how much the employer feels the work can
> be subject to Taylorism. If that's how they feel, then they may only
> be interested in pure skills for narrow tasks, and outsource rather
> than hire somebody anyway. In that regard, it may be safer not to
> develop repeatable engineering procedures and let every project be
> the result of magic. (I don't know whether that remark applies to
> GIS.)
>
> ** I suspect this is more relevant to the care and feeding of production
> systems that contain embedded GIS or locational functions of some sort,
> and/or mapping (e.g., Mapquest, our automated valuation system, a package
> delivery company, the telephone company, county assessor data search),
> than an agency responding to disasters, etc., or doing one-off research
> where GIS manipulations are central to the activity. Is that the case?
>
> Jim
> a mortgage bank
>
>
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