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Subject: Re: [gislist] GIS software/hardware donations for 3rd World
Date:  02/16/2005 03:10:02 AM
From:  GISex* Technologies



Please stop using this phrase fo 3rd World and 1st world, there's only one
world and we are all living on the same?
--

Krishan Sharma, Ph.D. (USA)
www.gisextechnologies.com
info@gisextechnologies.com
Mobile: 933-300-8409 & 0987-0129-4791

>
> Must say I have mixed feelings about all this. While the altruism to
> causes such
>
> as conservation, fighting poverty, etc. is admirable, those organizations
> paying full fees for software and maintenance (state and federal gov
> agencies)
> are
> doing so with US taxpayers money that is supposed to be going towards
> serving
> our communities and national needs. These needs also include
> conservation,
> planning, supporting our infrastructure, maintaining water & air quality,
> and
> on and on.
>
> Barb Seekins
>
> Anthony Quartararo wrote:
>
>> Analisa,
>>
>> You very correct, and further make Pat Waggaman's case. ESRI has a
>> policy
>> of supporting a global conservation effort its resources, and long-ago
>> recognized that in order to do so, sooner rather than later, it must
>> "give"
>> the software and related training & support to just about anyone willing
>> enough to undertake the difficult task of Conservation. That being
>> said,
>> and however honorable that may be, ESRI must get revenues from somewhere
>> to
>> meet its internal financial goals AND still have sufficient surplus (as
>> a
>> strategic decision) to "support" that global conservation effort at a
>> "near
>> free" discount. If it were a political policy, dare I suggest what that
>> sounds like ? Another strategic approach could be, lowering the price
>> for
>> all products so that the cost of a license is based on a truly global
>> market
>> [ie. ALL potential and current users of GIS technology software], and
>> then
>> offer no significant discount. In this scenario, coupled with ESRIs
>> significant brand strength and existing global network of
>> people/partners,
>> everyone would benefit more completely. The uptake of the technology
>> would
>> be, shall I say, "energetic" for the foreseeable future. Not to mention
>> a
>> more level and globalized competitive playing field, and it would force
>> ESRI
>> to cherish and attend to each and every licensee. This unfortunately is
>> not
>> likely to happen in our professional careers, then again, truth is
>> stranger
>> than fiction. Cheers.
>>
>> Anthony
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
>> [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of Analisa Gunnell
>> Sent: Friday, January 28, 2005 12:46 PM
>> To: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
>> Cc: gislist@lists.geocomm.com
>> Subject: FW: [gislist] GIS software/hardware donations for 3rd World
>>
>> Hello GIS community,
>>
>> I find this topic to be fascinating. As a US ESRI user that works for
>> a non-profit focused on conservation issues and meeting the triple E
>> bottom
>> line, we would not be able to do all the GIS work that we do without
>> products that were given to us by ESRI. This was done because of our
>> status
>> as a non-profit and our focus on conservation efforts. It was my
>> understanding that this held true for international organizations with
>> similar goals. It is important to understand that while ESRI obviously
>> has
>> a serious hold on the GIS market, at the very least they are
>> conscientious
>> enough to allow organizations that could not otherwise afford their
>> software
>> opportunities to use it. While I have my complaints (as do we all) I
>> respect this in the organization. How many corporate entities can say
>> the
>> same?
>>
>> Anyway, that's my 2 cents before my morning coffee.
>>
>> Hope all are well!
>>
>> Analisa Noel Gunnell
>> Chief Cartographer/GIS Analyst
>> Ecotrust
>> 721 NW Ninth Avenue, Suite 200
>> Portland, Oregon 97209
>> 503.467.0750
>> analisa@ecotrust.org
>>
>> SALMON NATION
>> CONSERVATION ECONOMY
>> ECOLOGY-ECONOMY-EQUITY
>> www.ecotrust.org
>> www.salmonnation.org
>> www.vividpicture.net
>> www.inforain.org
>> www.tidepool.org
>>
>> "Every Animal Knows More than You Do."
>> Nez Perce Tribe
>> ><((('> ><((('> ><((('>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: g

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