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Subject: RE: [gislist] google maps
Date:  02/18/2005 12:30:01 PM
From:  hvp




...this discussion makes you wonder just why did the big guys of GIS- ESRI, MapInfo, etc, not start a webmapping portal of their own, like [http://www.mapquest.com], [http://www.mappoint.com], [http://maps.yahoo.com/] or [http://maps.google.com/]. What could be the business reason for avoiding what seems like a pot of gold.

Harsh Prakash
PS: While on Google's foray: Google bought the domain [http://www.gbrowser.com] last April. Hmn.

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Anthony Quartararo" <ajq3@spatialnetworks.com>
Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2005 12:33:00 -0500

I am wondering and musing how this implementation of technology, a seemingly
grand-slam by a non-GIS oriented organization, will impact and affect the
OGC [and all organizations who put so much effort and $$ into that], because
it appears on the surface at least, that Google, if not Microsoft, and
others have essentially bypassed the OGC imperatives and done it in grand
style and with reasonable success.

Anthony

-----Original Message-----
From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com
[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of hvp
Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:14 PM
To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
Subject: RE: [gislist] google maps

Using scripting, frames, etc, to update variables on the client-side without
page-refresh like in Gmail or Google Suggest is smart, but not new- think
Yahoo got there earlier. If you want to try something simpler with PHP,
JPSpan [http://jpspan.sourceforge.net/wiki/doku.php] might just work with
PHPArcIMS [http://phparcims.sourceforge.net/].

Harsh Prakash

---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Michael Gould <gould@lsi.uji.es>
Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 18:14:31 +0100

That's right. "GIS" per se is general purpose and analysis oriented.

These apps are special purpose and search + visualization oriented.
Companies like MSFT and Google know (or can buy experts in) how to search
and visualize.

Tim Smith asked who builds them? any group of clever programmers, better if
they are not constrained by notions of what GIS is supposed to be, or do.

Mike Gould

p.s.- similar story for LBS

At 16:01 16/02/2005, Sonny Parafina wrote:
>In my opinion, spatial is no longer special and companies that insist
>that it is will go the way of the dodo.
>
>BTW, good see you posting to this incarnation of gis-l, Bill.
>
>sonny
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com
>[mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.thinkburst.com]On Behalf Of Bill Thoen
>Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:40 AM
>To: gislist@lists.thinkburst.com
>Subject: RE: [gislist] google maps
>
>On Wed, 16 Feb 2005, Michael Gould wrote:
>
> > Yes, another example of how, when you want to paint fast maps on the
> > screen, you don't need a heavy GIS-based solution behind the scenes,
> > only
>a
> > clever programmer. Terraserver demonstrated this several years
> > back: lots of server power and lots of GBs, but a simple concept for
> > retrieval and visualization. The swiss map is even simpler, because
> > they manage fewer possible tiles.
>
>Makes you wonder why most of the major popular GIS applications
>(Mapquest, MapPoint, Terraserver, and now Google) are being developed
>by companies not known for their GIS capabilities.
>
>- Bill Thoen





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