I do not personally use ESRI software, but I think there is a danger in splitting the list, and I favor keeping it as is. I will list some of the dangers of splitting the list below.
(1) I ocassionally answer software specific questions on this list that I would not answer normally, as I don't subscribe to ESRI specific forums. Splitting the focus of the forum would deny my knowledge, and the knowledge of others, to those asking software specfic questions.
(2) Answering questions for fellow GIS users, no matter what software they are using, allows us to give back to the GIS community in a small way. If the list splits, a small part of the contribution back to the community will be taken away.
(3) Software specific questions often branch into other questions or issues of general concern to the GIS community. It also allows advocates of other software, or advocates of open source software to offer alternative solutions to a software specific problem. If we split the list, this will no longer happen.
(4) As a GIS software designer and programmer, I personally know it is good to hear what problems end-users are having with all types of GIS software.
Could we establish a new protocol that software specific questions be designated in the subject line. For example:
ESRI - How do you do.......
Or
MAPInfo - Why won't this work.......
Then if you don't want to bother with the software specific questions, you can just delete them. If the size of your inbox is the problem, you might consider switching to a list with less trafic.
The Sunburned Surveyor
-----Original Message----- From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com]On Behalf Of Analisa Gunnell Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 12:05 PM To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com Subject: Re: [gislist] [spamcatcher] Re: GISlist Focus
"Let's see, there's only about 30 of them." Would you mind sharing them with the group? I have no problem going somewhere else, just point the way...
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-----Original Message----- From: gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com [mailto:gislist-bounces@lists.geocomm.com] On Behalf Of J Bee Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 12:00 PM To: gislist@lists.geocomm.com Subject: [spamcatcher] Re: [gislist] GISlist Focus
A matter of personal preference? I'm trying to fight the feeling that the folks who want to continue using this list as tech support are not completely anal, but it its a hard battle. Example: Bill Thoen Wrote: >Why is there such resistence to using any number of the possible >alternative ESRI-focused support lists for ESRI-focused product support >questions?!?
The basic point is that there are so many other places to get tech support, and this list is not a tech support list. Cry about ARC whatever, to ARC specific users via ARC specific user lists. Let's see, there's only about 30 of them. How you get a color pallete from within ArcGIS is not a GIS-list serve question. Who has the best GIS education, is GIS certification worth it, the OGC, etc., are dicussions the list was designed to facilitate. It ain't a civil rights issue, nor rocket science to figure this one out. What the &^^ the Yankees and soceer have to do with this issue is beyond me. Bob
"McGuire, Matt" <Matt.McGuire@CO.DAKOTA.MN.US> wrote: I think you'll find the ESRI product support forums very active. Why people want to ask ESRI questions here must be a matter of personal preference. Personally, I find support.esri.com to have nearly all the ESRI specific answers for me. However, ESRI is GIS related, and this is a GIS list.
When talking baseball, don't be surprised when the Yankee fans show up.
(or futbol and Real Madrid, this is a worldwide list after all.)
>Bill Thoen Wrote: >Why is there such resistence to using any number of the possible >alternative ESRI-focused support lists for ESRI-focused product support >questions?!? Everybody else with non-ESRI software tech support questions >takes them to the appropriate list and uses GISlist only for topics that >have to do with GIS. And no, questions about "runtime error in ArcGis9" or >how to create dynamic legends in ArcMap are not "anything GIS."
>On the other hand, questions about how to extract some information using >some spatial operation in some particular software product I'd say are >more on-topic for GISlist. Questions about how to convert data from >or to ESRI formats don't bother me either. I'm just asking for people to >be a bit more discriminating over what the
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