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| Subject: | Re: [gislist] But what the hell can a GIS really DO? |
| Date: |
05/13/2005 12:50:01 PM |
| From: |
Sonny Parafina |
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I *AM* the misanthrope that started that discussion. If you look say the =
last 10 threads, the majority are from technical support questions, =
specifically related to a well known software vendor. I rarely see =
software questions from users of Intergraph, MapInfo, Caliper, =
Mapserver, Manifold, and on and on. Makes a person wonder ...
There are interesting discussions, such as a complex routing problem and =
a location-allocation problem that were posed the last couple of months. =
Its discussions like these that keep me interested in the list. That =
being said, I wait for the day when the users posting software support =
questions are promoted to upper management.
Cheers!
sonny
Stephany Filimon wrote:
> Jeremy,
> =
> There was a debate, not too long ago, about the direction in which list =
> content was headed, what the list should/should not primarily focus on. =
Part =
> of it was about the plethora of postings on software issues, vs. more... =
> engaging? theoretical? topics such as yours.
> =
> I wouldn't abandon the list just yet. I'm currently working on visual "m=
aps" =
> of financial data and activity, just to experiment at this stage. But I =
think =
> this is different from your idea of GIS models - can you elaborate? Are =
you =
> talking more about combining existing models (i.e., the statistical likel=
ihood =
> of condition A in location B happening at C time, forecast/estimate model=
s =
> already used for weather, rainfall, financial markets, etc.) with GIS lay=
ers =
> (adding however many variables), thus making for a "new" GIS model of sor=
ts? =
> I'm on the technical side of GIS, so I have this tendency to skip ahead a=
nd =
> start thinking of the "how" - what pieces would you tie in to do somethin=
g =
> like this, what statistical/mathematical models would you integrate? =
> =
> I think the opportunity for rich multivariate, spatial analysis is great.=
I'm =
> also fascinated with (and researching for my dissertation) sources of err=
or in =
> decision making. For example, if one is using predictive models and GIS =
> layers have different sources of data (weather service, windmill sensors, =
> temperature sensors, etc.), how does one appropriately consider not just =
the =
> margin for error in each layer, but in combined layers? There's also the=
side =
> of how human beings make decisions - and where their judgments tend to be=
more =
> and less accurate based on their understanding of data before them. I th=
ink =
> your idea of GIS models may be able to take much or all of this into =
> consideration.
> =
> =
> Quoting Sonny Parafina <sonny@ionicenterprise.com>:
> =
> =
>>You are on the wrong listserv. Many GIS-L list members believe this is =
>>alternative to commercial software support. The list traffic here is =
>>typically, "Which button do I push on software X to get result Y."
>>
>>I would suggest that you join the geowankers listserv, where the =
>>intersection of the spatial web and semantic web is the focus.
>>
>>Here is the geowankers URL:
>>
>>http://lists.burri.to/mailman/listinfo/geowanking
>>
>>
>>
>>sonny
>>
>>
>>Jeremy Stocks wrote:
>>
>>>I have been in the field of GIS nearly 14 years. I have seen every new
>>
>>craze come and go. But something exciting is slowly happening , thanks to=
the
>>following factors. I shall list them:
>>
>>> a.. The web for GIS is starting to come of age. Applications which are
>>
>>able to serve large quantities of data necessary for GIS are now here. =
>>
>>> b.. The rise of free web GIS such as Mapserver which allows people to
>>
>>publish their own maps on the internet as long as they have a connection. =
>>
>>> c.. The removal of selective availability on GPS receivers is allowing
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>>ordinary users access to precision they other wsie would never have had.
>>
>>>These changes, particularly the web and GPS are giving ordinary users po=
wer
>>
>>to create maps they were previously never able to do. Now I am told the
>>location-based industry according to the Guardian article
>>http://www.guardian.co.uk/online/story/0,3605,1453293,00.html is going to=
be
>>worth a lot of money in the future. =
>>
>>>The apps I am seeing are impressive but are only the tip of the iceberg.
>>
>>Everyone is serving out datasets based on exisiting features such as road=
s,
>>railways and contours.
>>
>>>But what would be very exciting would be what I call "conceptual&qu
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